木兰影业
1984年1月23日 CHRIS BELL: January 23, 1984.
那一天彻底改变了我的人生 It was a day that changed my life forever.
…是力量和道义勇气建成了 PRESIDENT REAGAN:... The muscle, the moral courage that built
这个世界上最伟大最自由的国度 the greatest, freest nation the world has ever known.
那时罗纳德·里根是我们的总统 CHRIS: Ronald Reagan was our President
有人在伊郎制造事端 and there was trouble brewing in Iran.
虽然我只是个小孩 I was just a kid,
但我知道谁是幕后黑手 but I knew who was behind it.
他是钢铁酋长 His name was The Iron Sheik.
来自伊朗德黑兰 ANNOUNCER: From Tehran, Iran,
重258磅（约117公斤） weighing 258 Ibs,
钢铁酋长！ The Iron Sheik!
他们心里很讨厌这个人 COMMENTATOR: They have a lot of hate in their hearts for this man.
伊朗 第一 美国… Iran- number one! U.S.A.-
看到了吧 虽然里根释放了人质 CHRIS: You see, Reagan may have freed the hostages
但是酋长仍然拿到了金腰带 but The Sheik still had the championship belt.
只有一个人 There was only one man
能够解救我们 that could save us.
？I am a real American...？
这是来自加利福尼亚的威尼斯海滩 ANNOUNCER: From Venice Beach, California,
令人难以置信的霍根巨人！ the incredible Hulk Hogan!
霍肯撕掉衣服 COMMENTATOR: And the Hulkster rips off that shirt.
但是比赛开始三分钟后 CHRIS: But three minutes into the match
霍肯巨人就被可怕的 骆驼式固定扣住了 Hulk Hogan was locked in the dreaded camel clutch.
霍肯完了 COMMENTATOR: It's over for the Hulk.
这一招能弄断一个普通人的后背 CHRIS: This move would snap the back of a normal man,
但他不是普通人 But this wasn't a normal man.
他是霍肯巨人 This was Hulk Hogan
他是为了我们的国家而战 and he was fighting for our country.
霍肯从骆驼式固定中挺过来了 The Hulkster got out of the camel clutch
背上坐着酋长 with the Sheik on his back,
他把酋长甩下来了 dropped the big leg
然后紧紧按住 and he pinned the Sheik.
霍根巨人获得了胜利 这清楚地告诉世人 Hulkamania was born and the message was clear-
千万别跟霍肯巨人过不去 You don't mess with Hulk Hogan
千万别跟美国过不去 and you certainly don't mess with America.
我必须打败你 I must break you.
看看德拉哥的下场 CHRIS: Look what happened to Ivan Drago.
他想跟美国过不去 He tried to mess with America
结果被洛基教训了一顿 and Rocky kicked his ass.
当越南人奴役着我们的战俘时 And then when the Vietnamese were holding P.O.W.S
兰博来了并把他们教训了一顿 Rambo went in and he kicked their ass.
在兰博精神的鼓励下 And in the spirit of Rambo
我告诉大家 我们这次一定会赢 let me tell you we're gonna win this time.
然后是阿诺史瓦辛格 CHRIS: Then came Arnold Schwarzenegger,
他是终极教训者 The ultimate ass-kicker.
我从来没有看过"乱世佳人" 和"卡萨布兰卡" I never saw "Gone With the Wind" or "Casablanca,"
但是我能告诉你阿诺每一部 电影的每一句对白 but I can tell you every line of every Arnold movie.
"粉碎你的敌人 让他们从你眼前消失 "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you
然后听听女人们的痛哭声" and hear the lamentations of the women. "
"迪伦 你这家伙" "Dylan, you son of a bitch. "
然后他们击掌 他们 都涂了油青筋爆现 And they go bam! And they're all oiled up and their veins are popping out.
我有力量 I have the power!
更好 更强 更快 TV ANNOUNCER: Better, Stronger, Faster.
我那时才12岁 CHRIS: I was just 12 years old
美国称霸的事迹激增 and there was an explosion of ass-kicking in America.
我们的目光要看得远一些 REAGAN: And like our Olympic athletes
目的跟我们的奥林匹克运动员一样 we set our sights on the stars
我们是为了金牌而去的 and we're going for the gold.
?the eye of the tiger. ?/i>
我也想撕掉衣服 CHRIS: I wanted to tear off my shirt
变得更强壮 黝黑 and be ripped, tanned and larger than life.
但是现实是 But in reality
我是波启普夕的一个 又肥胖又苍白的孩子 I was a fat, pale kid from Poughkeepsie.
我来自一个肥胖的家庭 You see, I come from an overweight family.
我的父母总是位列肥胖大军中 My parents were always a little on the heavy side.
我有一个好妈妈 I couldn't ask for a better mom.
她为我们兄弟三个付出了一切 She did everything for her three boys.
我们每个星期做三次礼拜 We went to church three times a week
她甚至在周日学校任教 and she even taught Sunday school.
我的爸爸也经常陪在我们左右 My dad was always there for us too
他还是我们球队的教练呢 and he even coached our little league teams.
我爱我的爸爸 但他 不是我心目中的英雄 I love my dad, but he was never really my hero.
我不想像他一样 I didn't want to be like him.
我想跟阿诺一样 I wanted to be like Arnold.
问题是 我一直都很矮小 Problem is, I was always too small, too short.
人们老说"嗨 小贝尔 怎么了 小贝尔" People would say, "Hey, Little Bell. What's up, Little Bell?"
我不想成为小贝尔 And I didn't want to be Little Bell.
我想成为大贝尔 I wanted to be Big Bell.
我的哥哥迈克小时候有点胖 My older brother Mike was a little chubby
每天早晨去上学 and every morning when he went to school
一踏上巴士那些小孩就叫他肥猪 he'd get on the bus and the kids would call him Pugsley.
他不喜欢被这样叫 He didn't like that too much,
所以他扁那些这样叫他的小孩 so he beat some of those kids up.
因此他获得一个绰号"疯狗" That's where he got the nickname "Mad Dog. "
马克是全家的宠儿 Mark was the baby of the family.
他在学校很惨 He had a hard time in school.
学校把他和他的朋友们分开 He was separated from his friends
他被归入"特别孩子"那一班 and put in the class with the special kids.
他根本不觉得自己有多特别 It didn't make him feel very special at all.
他讨厌上学 He hated school,
所有他把时间都花在运动上 So he spent all of his time playing sports.
他经常大汗淋漓地坐在餐桌上 He'd come to the dinner table dripping with sweat.
我和疯狗给他起了个绰号"臭臭" Mad Dog and I nicknamed him "Smelly. "
因此我是矮小子 疯狗是胖小子 So I was the short kid, Mad Dog was the fat kid
"臭臭"无学习能力 And Smelly had a learning disability.
好的 我明白了 我们永远都不能成功 对吗 Okay, I get it. We're never gonna make it, right?
但是对于我们来说 肌肉能使我们成功 But for us, we knew muscles were the answer
霍肯已经为我们指明方向 and the Hulkster showed us the way.
训练 祈祷 吃维生素 Train, say your prayers, eat your vitamins.
忠实于自己 忠实于国家 Be true to yourself, true to your country.
做一个真正的美国人 Be a real American.
所以我们开始在地下室训练 CHRIS: So we started training in the basement.
我们练习摔跤 We'd body-slam each other,
肘摔 DDT(某种摔跤动作) drop elbows, D.D.T.S
双管齐下 腹部拉伸 Double noggin knocker, the abdominal stretch,
铁爪 波士顿蟹式固定 the iron claw, the Boston crab
打桩 the piledriver.
当疯狗对我来说太强时 And when Mad Dog was too tough for me
我就把铁椅砸烂 I would break out the steel chair.
我妈妈的兄弟约翰也在健身 My mom's brother John was a bodybuilder
他给我们兄弟三个一本健美杂志 and he gave me and my brothers our first muscle magazines
并告诉我们怎样去健身 and showed us how to work out.
下一年的圣诞节 我们的礼物不是电脑游戏 And the next Christmas instead of video games
而是一套健身器材 we got the Hulkamania workout set.
准备好感受力量了吗 Are you ready to feel the power?
女士们先生们 Ladies and gentlemen, we are
我们是力量之队 the power team!
疯狗当上了足球队队长 CHRIS: Mad Dog became the captain of the football team
臭臭和我都开始参加力量举比赛 【力量举（Powerlifting）的比赛项目是硬拉（Deadlift）、深蹲（Squat）、卧推（Chest Pres）3个项目；举重（Weightlifting）的项目是抓举（Snatch）与挺举（Clean Jerk）两个项目。二者是有区别的】 and Smelly and I both started competing in Powerlifting.
下一个克里斯贝尔 425磅（约193公斤） ANNOUNCER: Chris Bell is next at 425.
不久我成了高中学校里最强壮的小子 CHRIS: Soon I was the strongest kid in my high school.
之后我打破了纽约州记录 Then I broke the New York State record.
这是我第一次被指责使用激素 And that's when I first got accused of using steroids.
我知道有人用激素 但他们是失败者 I knew guys who used them, but they were losers.
如果我心目中的英雄不用激素 那么我也不用 If my heroes didn't need steroids then neither did I.
当我成为高年级学生时 By the time I was a senior
我已经是全国最强壮的年轻人之一 I was one of the strongest kids in the country.
霍肯巨人经常说 Hulk Hogan was always talking about
"兄弟们 来威尼斯海滩 黄金健身中心训练" "hanging and banging down at Gold's Gym, Venice Beach, brother. "
我以前想"那是阿诺训练的地方 I thought, "that's where Arnold trains.
我必须去那里训练" that's where I need to be. "
我将会成为一个美国英雄 I was gonna be an American hero
我愿意为此付出一切代价 And I was willing to do whatever it takes.
我到加利福尼亚已经15年了 CHRIS: It's been 15 years since I got to California
我现在33岁 and now I'm 33 years old.
阿诺33岁时已经赢得了 When Arnold was 33 he'd already won
七次奥林匹亚先生 the Mr. Olympia seven times.
史泰龙已经演了 "洛基I和洛基II" Stallone had already made "Rocky I and Rocky II."
霍肯已经连续 And the Hulkster had already been
四年蝉联举重冠军 the heavyweight champion four years in a row.
我真的认为肌肉是成功的答案 I really thought muscles were gonna be the answer.
但是它们带给我的只是 一份销售健身房会员卡的工作 But all they got me was a job selling gym memberships.
我仍然每天都在黄金健身中心训练 I still train every day at Gold's,
阿诺只是一张廉价的壁画 But the only thing left of Arnold is a cheap mural on the wall
有一群人在讲关于过去的事 and a bunch of guys telling stories about the old days,
就像我的伙伴保罗 like my buddy Paul.
这些年这里的变化很大 It's changed a lot in all these years, you know.
你来这里多久了 How long have you been here?
我是1980年过来的 Since 1980.
阿诺当然是这里的背景画 Of course, Arnold was on the scene and Arnold-
没人看过像阿诺一样强壮的 Nobody had ever seen anybody who looked like Arnold.
史泰龙只是演了"洛基"系列电影 Sylvester Stallone had just done the "Rocky" movies
他是我想成为的那种类型 and he was the type of guy that I could relate to.
保罗甚至有机会跟史泰龙 在电影"超越颠峰"中合作 CHRIS: Paul even got a chance to work with Sly in "Over the Top. "
我能轻易地把他们打倒 I should be able to blow them away real easy.
我不敢相信我的梦想就要实现了 PAUL: I couldn't believe the dream was coming true.
你还有再演吗 And did you get a chance to do it again?
没有 但是我希望能跟过去一样健壮 No, but I'm hoping to get back in shape
实现我的梦想 to be able to make that a reality.
今天你也许沦落街头 You can be on the street one day
明天你也许就住在棚屋里了 and you can be in the penthouse the next.
凡事皆有可能 Anything's possible.
这就是寒舍 This is my humble abode.
你就住在这里 是的 - Your humble abode right here? - Yeah.
你真的住在货车里 So do you actually live in the van?
我确实住在 确切来说 睡在里面 I actually live- well, I sleep in it,
这么说 let's put it this way, yes.
你在这里睡 在那边训练 You sleep in it. And then you train over here.
我在这边训练 是的 I train here, yeah.
像这样的货车随处可见 You would see vans like this-
来自世界各地的人 Guys would come from all over the world,
睡在他们的车里 这辆和那辆 sleep in their cars, this and that-
寻找能够在黄金 健身中心训练的机会 Anything to get a chance to train at Gold's Gym
因为来这里能够实现我们的梦想 because we had something special here.
如果有人对你说: What would you say to people that say,
"你的梦想已经结束了你已经50岁了" "the dream's over, man. You're 50 years old. "
你会跟这些人说什么 What would you say to those people?
他们是目光短浅的人 They're the ones that are short-sighted.
六个月了我仍然住在货车里 Now in six months I could still be in the van,
但是如果我能够超过其他人 but if I can outlift everybody,
我能打倒他们 超过他们 战胜他们 I can outsquat them, outbench them, out-dead-lift them,
谁才是王 Who's the king?
像你我一样的人 Guys like you and me
能够实现我们的梦想 Can fulfill our dreams.
我们继续训练 We can train.
比赛没有结束 太阳依旧灿烂 Game ain't over. The sun is shining.
一切都没有结束 And it ain't over.
我20年后会像他一样吗 CHRIS: Is that gonna be me in 20 years?
我全照着英雄们所说的做 I did everything my heroes said-
我训练 我祈祷 I trained, I said my prayers,
我吃维生素 到底是哪里做错了 I had my vitamins. Where did I go wrong?
嗨 早上好 早上好 - Hey, good morning. - Good morning.
最近还好吗 How are you?
我经常做曲奇棒 因为曲奇棒很重要 I always make the cookie bars 'cause cookie bars are important.
你做这些给哪支球队 What teams did you make these for?
阿林顿足球队 I made them for Arlington football teams
在他们第一次赢得比赛时 我就开始做这些给他们 first time ever they won a ball game.
他们叫这些"萝西曲奇棒" They used to call them "Rosie's cookie bars"
他们真的相信曲奇棒 能帮他们赢得比赛 and they really believe that they help them win all the games.
是不是像兴奋剂一样 Wouldn't that be like performance enhancement?
这不是兴奋剂 而是一些糖 It's not an enhancement. It's a little bit of sugar,
能够让你获取能量 碳水化合物 which can get you going, carbs.
但这些都是自然配料 But it's all natural ingredients.
不含激素 There's no steroids in here.
吃你老妈做的曲奇很惬意 对吧 Eating your mom's cooking is sort of comforting, don't you think?
当然 Sure.
很多事情都变了 Things change,
但曲奇棒不变 这是一定的 but the cookie bars remain, that's for sure.
我妈妈认为 CHRIS: My mom likes to think
这个世界就像 她的曲奇棒一样纯净 that the world is as pure as her cookie bars.
但人生不一定都是这样 But life isn't always like that.
很多我们一直坚信的东西 结果却发现它们不是真的 And a lot of things we grew up believing ended up not being true.
首先我发现并没有圣诞老人 First I found out there's no such thing as Santa Claus
和复活节兔子这些骗人的东西 or the easter bunny. That kind of sucks.
然后我看到这则新闻报导 Then I saw this news report.
钢铁酋长最近被捕了 REPORTER: The Iron Sheik had been arrested recently
当时他正跟摔跤手 钢锯吉姆道格 along with wrestler Hacksaw Jim Duggan
开车行驶在新泽西州公园道路上 while driving along the Garden State Parkway.
钢铁酋长被告持有可卡因和大麻 The Iron Sheik was charged with possession of cocaine and marijuana.
令摔跤迷们不解的是 What has interested most wrestling fans in this case
钢铁酋长和钢锯这两个死对头 is that the Iron Sheik and Hacksaw are known to be adversaries.
为什么会一起开车兜风 So why were they traveling together?
是的 我认为他们讨厌对方 CHRIS: Yeah, I thought these guys hated each other.
哇 正中钢铁酋长的后背 COMMENTATOR: Wham! Right on the back of the Iron Sheik!
他们的不和是假相吗 CHRIS: Was their feud all made up?
摔跤是场骗局吗 Was wrestling fake?
以后还能相信谁 Who's left to believe in anymore?
但是我还有心目中的英雄 Well, at least I still had my heroes.
他们永远不会让我失望 Those guys would never let me down.
?I need a hero... ?/i>
今天霍肯承认他健硕的体格 REPORTER: Today Hogan admits the famous physique
是使用了12年激素的结果 was the result of 12 years of steroids.
事实是 我的英雄们 都有不为人知的秘密 CHRIS: Truth is, all my heroes had a dirty little secret.
好莱坞赏史泰龙被告 Hollywood actor Sylvester Stallone has been charged
在上个月访问澳大利亚时 with importing bodybuilding drugs
购买健身药品 when he visited Australia last month.
你有使用激素吗 有 - MAN: Did you take steroids? - I take them.
我一直使用它们 直到比赛结束 I took them, yeah, up until the competition.
我以前一直反对使用激素 CHRIS: I was always against steroids
但是当我知道我心目中的英雄 都使用它们时 and when I found out that all my heroes used them
我很想说我没有感到烦恼 但其实我很烦恼 I'd like to say it didn't bother me, but it really did.
我无法想象如果我妈妈知道 I can't imagine how my mom would feel
我的哥哥和弟弟 现在都在使用激素 if she found out that both of my brothers
她的反应会是怎样 are on steroids right now.
我哥哥开始使用激素 My older brother started using steroids
是在参加辛辛那提大学 when he went to play Division I football
的足球淘汰赛时 at the University of Cincinnati.
我去到辛辛那提大学时 When I got to Cincinnati the practices were so grueling,
训练远比想象中的要艰苦 much more than what I expected.
教练经常说"你要 变得更大更强更快" Coaches would say, "you gotta get bigger, stronger, faster. "
这是恐吓吗 不 兄弟 - CHRIS: Was it intimidating? - Oh, man,
跟我想象的有很大差异 A lot different than I thought it was gonna be.
他在辛辛那提打电话 找我要钱买激素 SHELDON BELL: He called me from Cincinnati and asked me for money for steroids.
我说"你要激素做什么" 他说"我没办法在这里竞争" I said, "what do you need that for?" he says, "I can't compete here. "
我大概说"我不知道那是什么 听起来像是药品" So I'm like, "I don't know what that is. It sounds like drugs. "
他继续说"那确实是药品" 我说"我不会给你钱买药品的 He goes, "it is drugs. " I said, "I'm not gonna send you money for drugs.
如果你要药品 自己找份工作吧" If you want drugs go get a job. "
我记得有一次 I remember at one point I think you maybe came home
你好像回家休息 还是做其它事情 for a break or you did something
你对我说"嗨 过来帮帮我" and you told me, "hey, come here, help me out. "
你脱下裤子然后说"帮我注射这些" And you pulled down your pants and you're like, "you have to inject this in me. "
我不想这样做因为 我反对使用激素 And I hated it 'cause I was totally against steroids.
然后你说"过来 你必须帮帮我" And you were like, "come on, just do it. You have to do it. "
兄弟 你必须帮帮你大哥 这是没办法的 You gotta help your big brother out, man. So it was no decision at all.
做得好的人都有使用它们 Everybody else that was doing well was on 'em.
使用激素不久后 CHRIS: Shortly after getting on the juice
疯狗离开学校去追寻更大的梦想 Mad Dog quit college to pursue an even bigger dream.
看哪 COMMENTATOR: Oh, look at that now!
迈克贝尔出场了 Here we go! Mike Bell!
我不敢相信自己的眼睛 CHRIS: I couldn't believe it.
我大哥在电视上跟人搏斗 That was my big brother wrestling on T.V.
右手被贝尔 噢 天哪 COMMENTATOR: Right hand by Bell. Oh, man!
疯狗想成为超级明星 CHRIS: Mad Dog wanted to be a superstar,
但他只是他们所说的"工作人员" But he was what they call a "jobber. "
他们雇他来被别人打 That's the guy they pay to get beat up
以此来衬托其他人 但是我大哥却不在乎 to make the other guys look good. He didn't care, though.
他想要为自己赢得一纸合同 标题写着"搏击场" He was gonna get himself a contract and headline "Wrestlemania. "
你为什么来到竞技场上 COMMENTATOR: Why did you even come in the ring?
你应该回家 蠢货 You should have gone home, dummy.
但他没有得到合同 CHRIS: But he never got the contract
最终WWE也没有打电话过来 And eventually the W.W.E. stopped calling.
你认为自己没有得到 合同的原因是什么 Why did you think you didn't make it?
可能大部份是我的原因 Probably mostly my own fault.
我先是使用激素 I went from being a guy who used steroids
后是使用激素和大麻 to a guy who used steroids and pot.
我需要逃避现实 And I still needed to escape reality
所以我开始使用麻醉药 可卡因 迷幻药 止痛药 so I started taking ecstasy, cocaine, acid, painkillers.
迈克贝尔出现在 他不该出现的地方 COMMENTATOR: Mike Bell is where he does not need to be now.
他不该出现在这个角落 他正为此付出惨痛代价 He's in the wrong corner and he's paying the price.
疯狗经常告诉我 CHRIS: Mad Dog always told me
当一个默默无闻的人还不如死掉 that he'd rather be dead than average.
当他觉得他的梦想破灭时 And when he thought his dream was over
他不能承受这些失败 he couldn't cope with the failure.
我带上一瓶含铅汽油 MIKE: So I had a bottle of liquid lead,
一瓶奈奎尔和四瓶安眠药 a bottle of NyQuil and four boxes of sleeping pills.
我向着河边走去 I went down to the river
走下火车铁轨 down by the railroad tracks,
停好车 咽下 带来的几瓶东西 parked my car, took everything.
他想走进去 ROSEMARY: And he tried to walk into the-
他想走进Hudson河里 He tried to walk into the Hudson river.
你真的吃了四瓶安眠药 CHRIS: So did you take all the sleeping pills?
都吃了 含铅汽油呢 - Everything. - And the lead additive?
我根本不可能还活着 不可能 There's no way I should be alive right now. There's no way.
已经过了十年了 CHRIS: It's 10 years later
尽管发生了很多事 and despite everything that happened
疯狗仍然想得到那纸合同 Mad Dog is still trying to get that contract,
实现他的梦想 Trying to keep the dream alive.
从新加坡到路易斯维尔 我打遍天下无敌手 'Cause I've been all over the world
尽管上来挑战我吧 from Singapore to Louisville, and it doesn't matter-
我会把你们都打倒 You line 'em up, I'll knock 'em down.
我知道为什么你从来没有做到了 I can see why you never made it.
以前每个周末 疯狗都会在 CHRIS: Mad Dog used to wrestle in front of a television audience
大约一千万电视观众面前摔跤 of 10 million people every week,
但是今晚他是在葡萄牙 男子健身中心摔跤 but tonight he's wrestling at the Portuguese Men's Center
面对着200个观众 为了赚大约50美元 In front of 200 people for about 50 bucks.
今晚他不是跟超级布莱特摔跤 CHRIS: And instead of wrestling Bret the Hitman Hart
而是跟侏儒摔跤 He's facing Midgeto
他正在揍那个侏儒 And he's getting his ass kicked.
加油 伙计 加油 Come on, man, come on.
我的弟弟臭臭 总是努力想赶上别人 CHRIS: My baby brother Smelly was always trying to keep up
尽管看到了发生 在疯狗身上的事情 and despite everything that happened to Mad Dog
还是跟着疯狗的步伐 he followed in his footsteps anyway,
成为职业摔跤选手和使用激素 becoming a pro wrestler and using steroids.
我使用激素的原因很简单 The reason I decided to use steroids was simple.
我必须变得更强大 I just needed to get bigger.
就是这样 That was pretty much it.
跟疯狗不同的是 CHRIS: But unlike when Mad Dog started using steroids,
臭臭要考虑到他的妻子 Smelly had a wife to consider.
你结婚时有没有想过 When you got married did you ever think
你的丈夫会注射激素 that your husband would be injecting himself with something?
不 我从没想过会这样 No, that didn't even enter in my conscious thought.
我们刚认识时 他是反对使用激素的 When I first met him he was against steroids.
他认为"不用使用激素也可以做到 He was like, "you don't need to do it.
我从来不用这些东西 我不相信它们" I've never done 'em. I just don't believe in 'em. "
我很沮丧 MARK: I was pretty upset about it
因为我也不想这样 我有点害怕 Because I didn't want it to come to that. I was kind of scared.
我不想注射这种油状物 I didn't want to inject this oil into my body.
我觉得那样很怪异 I thought it was weird.
他不算高大 He's not a huge guy, you know.
最多只有6尺高 He's 6' if he's lucky
我知道那肯定是有效的 and so I knew that it was definitely going to help
因为这就是它的功能 because that's what it does,
激素的功能就是 让你变得更高大 what steroids do- make you bigger.
她只是说:"做你应该做的" She basically said, "do what you need to do. "
这是杰克跟爸爸在一起 ANDEE: Here's Jake with the daddy.
他们的儿子出生后 CHRIS: After their son was born Smelly decided
臭臭觉得当职业摔跤手 再也不是他想要的生活了 The life of a pro wrestler was not exactly what he wanted anymore.
这是我的小杰克在荡秋千 Here's my little Jake in his swing.
回顾过去我其实 并不知道自己究竟要的是什么 Mark: Looking back, I don't really know what the hell I wanted.
签合同意味着你属于WWE Having a contract means that you belong to W.W.E.
要到处去比赛 我已经结婚生子了 And you have to travel. I was married with a kid.
我真正需要的是 I mean, that's really all I need-
一所房子一个孩子 和一个妻子 我退下来了 A house, a kid and a wife. I'm set.
一 二 三 One, two, three!
他们在效区住下来 CHRIS: They settled down in the suburbs
臭臭开了一家健身房 and Smelly even opened up his own gym.
是的 我的弟弟为了家庭生活 Yeah, my little brother gave up
放弃了他的摔跤梦想 the wrestling dream for a respectable family life,
但是他并没有全都放下 but he didn't quite give up everything.
现在我已经用惯了它 MARK: Now that I'm into it
我意识到它也并不是那么不好 我喜欢激素 I realize it's not really all that bad. I love steroids.
我想我大概会断断续续使用这些东西 I think I'll probably be on and off of them
可能永远都是这样 probably forever.
这就是你训练的目的 这就你应该做的 This is what you trained for! This is what you do!
加油 孩子 Come on, boy!
我认为我们之间有个协议 ANDEE: I thought that we had an agreement
他摔跤时使用激素 that he did it for wrestling.
现在他不再摔跤了 Now he's not wrestling anymore
我当然认为他会停止用 so naturally I thought he would just stop.
如果能够变得尽可能地强壮 MARK: In my mind there's no excuse
我认为没有理由不这么做 for not being as strong as you possibly can be.
为了取胜你必须这样做 You do what you gotta do to win.
加油克里斯 现在开始了 ANNOUNCER: Come on, Chris, let's do this now.
放弃吧 这个很重 ANNOUNCER: Let's give it up for him. It's a lot of weight.
伙计 上吧 MAN: There it is.
加油 Come on now!
加油克里斯 ANNOUNCER: Smoke show! Come on, Chris.
拿着 拿着 快拿 快拿 - Take it, take it. - MEN: Take it, take it.
试得好 克里斯试得好 ANNOUNCER: Nice try, Chris, nice try.
如果你害怕 MARK: If you are apprehensive
使用激素 about taking a steroid or you're apprehensive
或者害怕尝试一些新方法 about trying some new methods
那么你天生就不是当冠军的料 then maybe you're not cut out to be a champion.
冠军是马克贝尔 ANNOUNCER: In first place, Mark Bell.
我猜我天生就不是当冠军的料 CHRIS: I guess I'm not cut out to be a champion,
因为我尝试激素 却因太过内疚而不用了 because I tried steroids but I felt so guilty I had to stop.
你会成为最厉害的举重选手吗 是的 - Are you gonna win worst overall lifter? - Yeah.
我现在甚至没有办法 CHRIS: And now I can't even compete
参加这项我生来就热爱的运动 In the sport I grew up loving.
我的弟弟刚刚比我多举了130磅 I mean, my baby brother just beat me by 130 Ibs.
我们在同一所房子里长大 We all grew up in the same house,
为什么我的兄弟都愿意 使用激素 而我却不愿意 so why are my brothers fine with steroids but I'm not?
你觉得我们三人的差别是什么 What would you say the differences are
你们的差别 - between the three kids. - Between the three?
我经常这样说 Well, I always kind of say it like this-
你夹在他们两个之间 you were in the middle of two guys
他们身材高大健壮 that were very strapping, athletic,
而你身材比较矮小 and you were tiny and short in stature,
我努力想让你觉得自己很特别 so I worked extra hard to make you feel extra special.
有天我带你去你的房间 One day I took you in your room-
我不知道你是否记得我们之间的对话 I don't know if you remember this conversation where I said,
"克里斯多佛 奥利奥曲奇 最好吃的是哪一部份" "Christopher, what's the best part of an Oreo cookie?"
奥利奥曲奇最好吃的是哪一层 What is the best part of an Oreo cookie?
中间层 中间层 对了 - The middle. - The middle. That's right.
尽管夹在曲奇的两端 So even though you have two sides of a cookie on this end,
中间层才是最美味的 the middle part is the most delicious.
每个人都想吃中间那层 有人甚至弄了双份 Everybody wants the middle. They even made double stuff.
是的 生活就是这样 CHRIS: Yep, this is pretty much how it was growing up.
妈妈留在家里带孩子 Mom stayed at home with the kids
爸爸穿西装打领带去工作 while Dad wore a suit and tie and went to work.
他在IBM工作了20年 直到被裁减下来 He was at I.B.M. for 20 years until he was downsized.
现在他自己开了家税务所 But now he has his own business doing taxes.
很多人认为在美国 SHELDON: Everybody thinks that success in America
衡量成功的标准是你有多少美元 其实并不是这样 is in the amount of dollars that you have. And that's not true.
真正的英雄是那些 The real true heroes are people
每天工作上班 who go to work every day and do their job
尽自己的努力养大孩子的人 and bring up their kids to the best of their ability.
我想成为霍肯巨人 CHRIS: I wanted to be Hulk Hogan.
我想成为阿诺 我想成为史泰龙 I wanted to be Arnold. I wanted to be Sylvester Stallone.
你们小时候身边 有没有这样的英雄 Did you have heroes like that growing up, when you were a kid?
是的 我们有像米基曼特尔 SHELDON: Yeah, we did. We had heroes
罗杰马力斯一样的英雄 like Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris.
但是我知道我不可能跟他们一样 But I knew I could never aspire to it
因为长大后 because back then you grew up,
接着就是就会毕业 结婚生子 you graduated, you got married and you had kids.
是的 我的爸爸 实现了自己的美国梦 CHRIS: Yeah, my dad had the American dream-
跟高中的女友结婚 you know, marry your high-school sweetheart,
买一栋房子 带孩子去看扬基队比赛 buy a house and take your kids to see the Yankees.
但是现在情况不同了 But things are different now.
连棒球都跟我爸爸小的时候不同了 And even baseball's changed from when my dad was growing up.
现在一讲到棒球 And now when I think of baseball
我没有想起贝比和汉莫汉克 I don't think about the Babe or Hammerin' Hank.
我想起激素 I think of steroids.
他是头猛兽 球出界了 COMMENTATOR: This one is a monster! It is out of here!
经历了94年的罢工后 棒球几乎死了 CHRIS: After the strike of '94 baseball was almost dead.
然后麦奎尔和索沙 But then Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa
开始冲击本垒打 started smashing home runs,
竞相刷新单季记录 racing toward the single-season record.
大约很多年前 You see, about 1000 years ago
贝比鲁斯在一个 季度里有60个本垒打 Babe Ruth had 60 home runs in one season.
在我父母小时候 And then when my parents were still kids
罗杰马里斯打了61支本垒打 Roger Maris hit number 61.
他当了37年的本垒打冠军 He was the home-run champ for 37 years
直到大麦克用70个本垒打 until Big Mac came along and crushed that record
刷新了他的记录 棒球得救了 with 70 home runs and baseball was saved.
进了 COMMENTATOR: Gone!
麦奎尔 你刚刚 打破了本垒打记录 Mark McGuire, you have just broken the home-run record.
你接下来要做什么 What are you going to do next?
我们要去迪士尼玩 We're going to Disney World.
我猜巴里邦茨也想去迪士尼玩 CHRIS: I guess Barry Bonds wanted to go to Disney world too
因为在2001年 'cause in 2001
他打出73炮粉碎了麦奎尔的记录 he smashed 73 bombs to break McGuire's record.
他简直是救世主 COMMENTATOR: This is the one!
新的本垒打记录诞生了 There's a new record homer!
看 以前的棒球选手都是骨瘦如柴 CHRIS: See, baseball players used to be scrawny,
但是他们现在都很强壮很酷 but now these guys were jacked and it was cool.
他们开始看起来像职业摔跤手 They started looking like pro wrestlers.
如果要构建一个本垒打选手 JOE BUCK: If you were to construct a home-run hitter
在实验室里把他拼起来 他看起来就是这样 in a lab, put him together, he'd look like that.
结果 却是这样 CHRIS: Turns out, that was kind of what was going on.
这个人跟许多有名的运动员有关联 The man with ties to some big-name athletes
他被告提供 has been charged with providing
兴奋剂给职业选手 performance-enhancing drugs to the pros.
这个留着一字须的家伙 就是维克托康特 CHRIS: The guy with the pencil-thin mustache is Victor Conte.
他曾经在力量之塔乐队演奏贝司 He used to be the bass player for Tower of Power,
但是当这个职业结束后 but when that career didn't work out
他尝试了每一件 失败的音乐家能做的事 he did what any failed musician would do-
他开始卖检测不出的激素给运动员 he started selling undetectable steroids to athletes.
能告诉我们名字吗 REPORTER: Will you name names?
有一份名单 There will be naming of names.
康特的文件上有超过250个运动员 CHRIS: Conte's files named over 250 athletes,
包括本垒打之王巴里邦茨 including the home-run king himself, Barry Bonds.
更不可思议的事情发生了 And then something even crazier happened-
何塞坎塞科写了本书 Jose Canseco wrote a book.
令人惊讶的不是他能写书 而是那本书的内容 The surprise wasn't that he was literate, it's what he wrote about.
他说他86年就开始使用激素了 He said he'd been taking steroids since '86,
80%的棒球运动员都使用激素 that 80% of baseball was on the juice
他亲自帮他的巴什兄弟 and that he personally injected his former bash brother
麦奎尔注射 Mark McGuire in the ass.
为什么呢麦奎尔先生 But why, Mr. McGuire?
你们想知道可怕的事实 Do you want to know the terrifying truth
还是想看我打几棒 or do you want to see me sock a few dingers?
打几棒 打几棒 Dingers! Dingers!
噢 Ooh.
国会想传召 All right, Congress wants to haul
一群棒球运动员 a bunch of baseball players
到国会山谈谈激素问题 up to Capitol Hill to talk about steroids.
2005年国会开了151天会 CHRIS: In 2005 Congress spent 151 days in session.
其中有八天是用来辩论 激素在体育运动上的应用 They spent eight of those days debating steroids in sports.
比他们花在 全民医疗系统上 That's more time than they spent on national healthcare,
讨论新奥尔良决堤原因 why the levees broke in New Orleans,
和结束伊拉克战争的时间还多 and more than ending the war in Iraq.
明显地 美国国会 Apparently, the United States Congress
很严肃地看待这项全民娱乐 takes this whole national pastime thing kind of seriously.
我是个棒球迷 一直都是 I'm a baseball fan. I always have been.
首先我非常喜欢棒球 Let me just start by saying that I am a huge baseball fan.
对我而言棒球不是游戏 而是一种激情 For me baseball is not a game, it's a passion.
我们有充分的理由认为 We have every right to be concerned
这项全民娱乐和它所代表的意义 that the national pastime and all that it represents
已经因为少数人 的自私行为而受到威胁 has been threatened by the selfish actions of a few.
这里面有些反美的东西 There's something simply un-American about this.
如果使用激素让 巴什兄弟变得反美 CHRIS: If using steroids makes the Bash brothers un-American,
那么它会让贝尔兄弟们变成什么样 what does that make the Bell brothers?
坎乔斯基议员 Congressman Kanjorski, do you think that this is not a matter
你认为这是一个值得 国会慎重考虑的问题吗
for the U.S. Congress to be deliberating?
我认为这没必要 I just don't think it's necessary.
为什么我们要传召那七个人 Why are we just gonna call seven people
他们很重要吗 and of what importance are they?
在过去的52年里 我们只这样做了25次 In the last 52 years we've only done it 25 times.
其中有14次是因为 14 of those times were
反美活动组织 by the un-American activities committee.
你现在或曾经是一名共产党员吗 Are you now or have ever been a member of the Communist Party?
先生 我并不是来这里谈论过去的 Well, sir, I'm not here to talk about the past.
我从来没有使用激素 就是这样 I have never used steroids, period.
你知不知道其他运动员有使用激素 Did you know that other players were using steroids?
我从来没有看到过注射器 我从来没有看到过激素 I have never seen a syringe. I have never seen steroids.
在更衣室聊天时你可能没见过 But in locker-room gossip- you may not have seen it.
大家都在说话 对吗"这个人 在做这个 那个人在做那个" People talk, right? "this guy's doing something, that guy's doing something. "
麦奎尔先生 你想就此发表评论吗 Now Mr. McGuire, would you like to comment on that?
要发表评论吗 You don't want to comment?
你拒绝回答吗 Are you taking the fifth?
这件事关乎价值观 关乎我们的文化 This is about values. It's about our culture.
关乎我们怎样界定自己 It's about who we define ourselves to be.
当我们想向其它国家 When we want to define to a foreign country
证明自己时 一般会播一部电影 what we're about and you're gonna show a film,
你会播哪一部 what would you go show?
"洛基4"怎么样 CHRIS: Hey, how about "Rocky IV"?
没有比这更美国式的了 There's nothing more American than that.
高大的俄国人 在高科技设备中训练 The big Russian trains in a high-tech facility
拥有一队科学家和教练 with a whole team of scientists and trainers,
当然了 他也注射激素 and of course he takes steroids.
与此同时洛基在雪地上扛着木桩 Meanwhile, Rocky's out there lifting logs,
砍柴 在仓库中 用最原始的方法训练 chopping wood, training in a barn the all-natural way,
因为只有共产党员 才用激素 对吗 'cause only Commies would take steroids, right?
当然了 斯莱 你说的都对 Sure, Sly, whatever you say.
事实是 Truth is, steroids were the secret weapon
激素是帮助美国 that helped American fight the Russians
在奥运会上战胜俄国的秘密武器 on the Olympic battlefield.
一切都从这里开始 And it all began here,
宾夕法尼亚州的York BarHenry York BarHenry in Pennsylvania.
你当奥运代表队教练时 CHRIS: When you were an Olympic coach
有没有人使用激素 did you see a lot of steroid use going on?
很多 Much.
是的 很多 - Yeah. - Much.
斯密提今年83岁 是位老前辈 Smitty's 83, one of the old-timers.
他曾经是奥运举重队的教练 He was the coach of the Olympic weight-lifting team back then.
有没有人认为使用激素是欺骗 Was it ever thought of as cheating at that point?
不 没有 因为我们 认为每个人都有用它 No. No, because we figured everybody was taking it.
甚至连史蒂文也有用 We figured even steven.
斯密提告诉我合成代谢类固醇 Smitty told me the story about how anabolic steroids
被引进美国奥运代表队的故事 were first introduced to the U.S. Olympic team.
19世纪50年代末 It was the late 1950s
俄罗斯在太空竞赛和奥运会上 and the Russians were dominating America
领先美国 in the space race and at the Olympics.
但有一天晚上俄罗斯教练喝醉了 But one night the Russian coach got drunk
告诉一个美国教练 and told the American coach
他们给他们的运动员注射激素 they'd been injecting their athletes with steroids.
那个美国教练立刻跑回家 The American coach raced home
专门为美国队 and developed an even more powerful steroid
发明了一种更强效的激素 specifically for team U.S.A.
所以如果激素确实 帮美国打败过共产党人 So if steroids actually helped America beat the commies,
为什么它现在却臭名昭著呢 How did it get such a bad rap?
上星期前NFL防守后卫莱尔阿尔扎多 MARIA SHRIVER: Last week former N.F.L. Defensive lineman Lyle Alzado
告诉NBC广播 是激素导致他患上 told N.B.C. News that steroids were the cause
不可手术的脑癌 of his inoperable brain cancer.
你注射激素多久了 How long were you on steroids?
我职业生涯的大部份时间 Most of my pro career.
而我参加了16年比赛 You know, I played 16 years.
它给我带来我想要的 同时也让我病入膏肓 And it got me where I wanted but also got me very sick.
莱尔阿尔扎多从NFL的骄子 CHRIS: Lyle Alzado went from being
the toughest son of a bitch in the N.F.L.
变成一个可悲的垂死的人 to being a sad dying man.
我在电视上看到的 都告诫我激素会致死 Everything I saw on T.V. taught me that steroids kill.
这是今晚播放的有关 使用激素的令人震撼的新闻 Some alarming news about steroid use tonight.
亚利桑那州的菲尼克斯 展开了毒品搜查 REPORTER: A drug bust in Phoenix, Arizona,
不是针对海洛因和可卡因 not for heroin or cocaine,
而是针对跟它们一样危险的东西 but for something just as dangerous.
激素损害健康 Health damage from steroids can include
它能导致心脏 关节 和生殖系统出问题 heart, joint and reproductive problems,
这是一种杀人的毒药 this is a drug that kills.
事实是 这些报导新闻的白痴 What happens is that these retarded idiots
这些在电视机上胡言乱语的人头 that give us the news, these talking heads
告诉我们的 that babble on T.V. give us this rhetoric
都没有经过任何专家证实 that comes from not one single expert.
他们说的各种荒谬的事 比如激素会杀了你 And they say ridiculous things like steroids will kill you,
它们会腐蚀你的肾脏 它们会让你生癌 they'll rot your kidneys, they'll give you cancer,
这些恐怖的事全都不是真的 they'll do all these horrible things that are just not true.
约翰罗曼诺是一本 健美杂志的高级编辑 CHRIS: John Romano is the senior editor of a bodybuilding magazine
他不同意他的媒体 同僚对激素的看法 and he disagrees with what his media colleagues think of steroids.
为什么我们一听到有人死于激素 Well, how come we hear constantly in the news
的新闻报导就害怕呢 that people are dying through taking steroids?
把尸体给我看 莱尔阿尔扎多 - Show me the bodies. - Lyle Alzado.
莱尔阿尔扎多不是死于激素 Lyle Alzado didn't die from steroids.
我跟他一起训练了两年 I trained with him for two years.
他不是死于激素 他是死于脑瘤 He didn't die from steroids. He died from a brain tumor.
我的同僚们没有人把他的 I don't know of any of my colleagues that link
中央神经系统淋巴瘤归咎于激素 his central nervous system lymphoma to his use of steroids.
查尔斯医生发表了 CHRIS: Dr. Charles Yesalis has published
70多篇有关使用激素的文章 over 70 articles on the use of steroids
是世界上最顶尖的 运动药物专家之一 and is one of the top experts in the world on drugs in sports.
激素会致死吗 问得好 - Are steroids killing people? - good question.
19世纪30年代末期 They've been used in medicine
它就已经被应用到药物上 since the late 1930s.
难道医生是故意用它们来杀人 I hope we haven't been purposely killing people.
它们能安全使用吗 能 Can they be used safely? Yeah.
这些药是医药界的福音 These drugs are a boon in the medical profession.
它们对肌肉萎缩症有奇效 They're a miracle drug for people with muscle wasting.
它们对烧伤患者 They are a miracle drug for burn victims,
癌症病人和术后康复者来说是种奇药 for cancer patients, people recovering from surgery.
对杰夫泰勒 这样的艾滋病人也是 CHRIS: And for people with A.I.D.S. like Jeff Taylor.
杰夫跟HIV病毒作战了25年 Jeff has been fighting H.I.V. for 25 years
他说激素拯救了他的生命 and he says steroids saved his life.
92年我的T细胞指数只剩下2 Back in '92 I was down to two "T" cells
情况很严重 还发展成PCP肺炎 and very sick. I'd developed P.C.P. pneumonia.
我的肺叶都坏了 我差点死掉 Both my lungs collapsed. I almost didn't make it.
离开医院时我的体重只剩下125磅 I came out of a hospital weighing 125 Ibs.
我开始寻找后来发现 在洛杉矶有人在做临床试验 So I started researching and found a clinical trial in L.A.
他们正在研究氧甲氢龙 一种以前用的健美药 They were studying Anavar, an old bodybuilding drug,
测试它对HIV病人有何作用 to test how it worked for people with H.I.V.
所以我签了合同 使用了适当的剂量 So I signed myself up, got a fairly high dose
效果显著 and responded amazingly.
6个星期后我重了30磅 I gained 30 Ibs in six weeks
T细胞指数升到300 and I gained 300 "T" cells.
所以这些药有双向性 JOHN ROMANO: So these drugs have cognitive powers-
如果你是病人它们会帮助你康复 if you're sick they'll help you;
如果你是个健康的运动员 它们就会杀了你 if you're a healthy athlete they'll kill you?
当死于酒精和烟草 的人数可以分钟计数时 How can you say steroids are a national public health crisis
怎么能说激素会引发 when you have people dropping dead at a rate you can measure by the minute
全国公共卫生危机呢 as a result of alcohol and tobacco?
据疾病控制中心统计 CHRIS: According to the C.D.C.,
美国每年有大约 43.5万人死于烟草 tobacco kills about 435,000 Americans every year,
7.5万人死于酒精 alcohol kills about 75,000,
而死于合成代谢类固醇的只有3人 and deaths from anabolic steroid abuse- three.
激素也出现在其它统计中 But steroids also show up in some other statistics-
内科急诊单 emergency room visits.
但它不是名单上的头号杀手 But it's not exactly number one on the list-
头号杀手是酒精 也不是第二号杀手 that would be alcohol; or number two-
那是可卡因 that's cocaine;
第三号是大麻 or number three- that's marijuana.
应该排在前10位吧 Gotta be top 10, though, right?
嗯 不是 Uh, not quite.
前25位呢 How about top 25?
前100 继续往下看 Top 100? Keep going.
试试第142位 Try number 142.
甚至排在多维生素后面 That's even after multivitamins.
?yabba-dabba-doo yabba-dabba-doo, Flintstones vitamins... ?
教育很重要 DR. YESALIS: Education is important,
但是我们也要注意 but what you have to watch out for
方法 is emChrisishing.
在电影"天生杀手"中 If you look at "Reefer Madness,"
毒品能使人变成一个杀人的疯子 it caused you to be a stark-raving, murdering lunatic-
这部片很滑稽因为剧情很极端 Very funny to watch because it goes so over the edge.
下一个悲剧也许就是你的女儿 The next tragedy may be that of your daughter,
你的儿子 或你的 of your son, or yours.
医生和运动科学家 Physicians and sports scientists have done that
善意地教育人们 with the best of intentions in this area-
"噢 激素会导致 "Oh, steroids are going to cause you
人突然死亡"等等 to drop over dead in your tracks" and so on.
运动员们看看四周却说"上帝啊 And the athletes are looking around saying, "Jesus,
没看到有那么多人死啊" haven't seen that many guys die. "
激素会致人死亡吗 Are steroids killing people?
激素很明显会致人死亡 Steroids clearly are killing people
慢性和急性死亡都会 both in the short term and in the long term.
加里韦德勒博士是 世界反兴奋剂组织的顾问 CHRIS: Dr. Gary Wadler is an advisor to the world anti-doping agency
也是激素事件发生后 媒体的核心采访人物 and the media's go-to guy when it comes to steroids.
我们知道 We know it's been associated
年轻人中风跟它有关 with stroke in young people
除此之外没有其它原因 for which there was no other obvious explanation.
我们知道心脏病发作跟它有关 We know it's been associated with heart attacks
除此之外没有其它原因 for which there was no other obvious explanation.
我们知道它会导致血凝增加 We know it increases clotting.
像加里韦德勒博士 这样的人把我弄糊涂了 What bothers me are people like Dr. Gary Wadler
他是个医生 在国会上 who's a physician and going before Congress
说出这些事 当被问到 and saying these things, and when confronted-
"请举出一篇 "Please produce a single article
能科学地证明以上任何 一项说法的文章" 做不到 that shows any of this in any scientific way," can't do it.
Norm Fost博士 是医学伦理学教授 CHRIS: Dr. Norm Fost is a professor of medical ethics
主要研究兴奋剂 with a research focus on performance-enhancing drugs.
我并不是说 So I'm not denying that there aren't
合成代谢类固醇完全没有副作用 some serious adverse effects from anabolic steroids.
只是我们还没有办法解释 其中任何一种可能的副作用 It's just that we haven't been able to demonstrate any of them.
可能是因为我们没去研究它们 Maybe that's because we don't study them.
激素被禁止后带来的问题之一 One of the problems with the ban on steroids
就是不可能做这类研究 is that it's impossible to do the kind of research
来找出相关问题的答案 that would answer these questions.
那些纯化论者想进行这些研究 Some purists would like to see those studies done.
我可以向你保证 他们永远没办法完成 Well, I can assure you they never will be done.
因为这是个不道德的研究 It would be a totally unethical study to do.
所以我们只能用手头上现有的资料 So we have to use the information we have at hand.
沮丧 抽搐 Depression, convulsions,
焦虑 黄疽 anxiety, jaundice,
心肌梗死 这是心脏病 myocardial infarction- which is heart attack-
湿疹 脓肿 eczema, abscess,
阴道疼痛 阴道溢液 vaginal pain, vaginal discharge.
想知道这是哪种毒品吗 这写的是什么 You wanna know what I'm reading this from? What does that say?
"维生素C" 答对了 - "Vitamin c. " - Thank you.
我的意思是 连花生 也是危险的 知道吗 I mean, look, peanuts are dangerous. You understand?
有人拿起花生 There are people that take a peanut
吃了颗花生就过敏性休克了 and have a peanut and they go into anaphylactic shock.
气管关闭了 他们就这样死了 Okay? The airway closes up. That's it. They die.
是不是这样就要禁止食用花生 Now does that mean that we ban peanuts
并起诉上帝制造了它们呢 and sue God for making them?
不 对了 - No. - Right.
我们所做的只是说 "好了 要小心花生" What we do is we say, "okay, peanut warnings. "
没有绝对安全的药品 There is no safe drug.
从来没有 There is no safe drug that ever exists.
总是有一个利益和危险比率 There's always the benefit-to-risk ratio.
药物名称然后是多少个百分比的人 You name the drug- "X" percent of people
会遭受副作用 will suffer adverse effects.
你觉得有过副作用吗 CHRIS: Do you feel any side effects ever?
是有 有些副作用 MARK: Yeah, I've had some side effects-
粉刺 毛发生长 acne, hair growth.
其它的副作用是 Some side effects that I've had are-
毛发生长是什么意思 你的头发 What do you mean by hair growth? On your head?
不 是在我的胸部背部等地方 No, just on my chest and my back and stuff.
我从来没有因此得病 我的背也没有断 I never break out. My back doesn't break out.
我没变得多毛 I don't get hairy from it.
只是有点睾丸萎缩 You get a little testicular atrophy,
然后又好了 这很正常 but then they come back. It's normal.
你的球缩小了 缩小了 - Your balls shrank? - The balls shank.
但谁需要它们呢 鬼才需要它们呢 - Who needs 'em? - Who needs 'em?
雄激素呢 我有些朋友说 What about testosterone? I have some friends who say
它太神奇了 它让她们感觉好极了 it is like a wonder drug. It makes them feel great.
使用之后 她们觉得 嗯 精神充足 It makes them feel, you know, frisky
变得更年轻 皮肤也变得更好 and young and it's great for their skin.
不好的副作用是我悦耳的嗓音变了 The negative side effects would be my lovely singing voice,
像猴子一样 毛发从头到脚长 hair like a monkey from my head to my toes,
我的意思是 毛发 从难言的地方长出来 I mean, hair growing out places you don't even want to talk about.
我想保持女性气质 I mean, I want to stay feminine.
我有这份工作的原因 And I think that's why I get so much work.
就是我虽然看起来像女人 It's because I still look like a woman
却有强壮的肌肉 and I still have hard muscles.
根据我的经验 DR. COLKER: In my experience,
激素只能放大你原有的特点 steroids are just gonna make you more of whatever you are.
如果你是个笨蛋 用了激素后 If you're a jerk and you take steroids
你就是个超级笨蛋 对吧 是个浑蛋 - You're a super jerk, right? - An asshole.
你已经明白了吧 你说得过头了 你这缺德鬼 You've seen that, right? You go beyond. You're an asshole.
我没有见过使用 激素后他会突然发怒 ANDEE: I've never seen Roid Rage.
他的性格没变 I've never seen any difference in his personality
跟我和杰克在一起时也跟平常一样 or how he is with me, how he is with Jake.
没什么变化 It hasn't done anything
那些电视节目所演的都没有发生 that all those after-school specials tell you that it's gonna do.
布赖斯我必须变得更大 Bryce, I gotta get bigger, man.
给 这个能帮助你 激素 - Here, this might help. - Steroids?
你到底怎么啦 WOMAN: What is going on with you?
去死吧 God damn it!
我拜访我弟弟一家时 CHRIS: While I was visiting my brother and his family
他们告诉我他们想再生一个孩子 they told me they were thinking of having another child
但是他们想到了激素的 另一个可能的副作用 but that another possible side effect of steroids was on their minds.
如果你们不能再生一个孩子 If you couldn't have another kid
你会不会因此后悔 would it be something that you'd regret
使用过激素 because you did steroids?
会 如果真是这个原因 会的 Yeah. If it was simply from that, yeah.
我会后悔 但是人的一生中 I'd probably regret it. But there's a lot of things
有很多会后悔的事 所以我不会… people regret in their lives, so I'm not, you know-
这是我做的一个决定 it's a decision I made and it's a decision I'll have to live with,
我也将忍受它所带来的一切后果 whatever the consequences are.
阿尔扎多15年前就死了 CHRIS: It's been 15 years since Alzado died.
为什么对我撒谎 因为我害怕… - Why did you lie to me? - I was afraid...
再看一次玛莉亚舒莉华的采访 CHRIS: Looking back at Maria Shriver's interview
我禁不住想 I can't help but wonder,
为什么她不问些实际点的问题 why wasn't she asking the real questions like
像"我丈夫也会变成这样吗" "is this gonna happen to my husband?"
她真的相信莱尔 Did she really believe Lyle
还是这是 or was this just the beginning
激素迷团的开始 of the steroid myth?
即使专家们已经 加深了对激素的了解 And even though the experts know a lot more about steroids,
你不可能通过电视知道这些 you sure wouldn't know it from watching the news.
晚间新闻 全国最严峻的毒品问题 Tonight, one of the nation's most serious drug problems
愈演愈烈 它就是激素 and it's only getting worse. It's steroids.
职业摔跤选手克里斯贝努瓦 Professional wrestler Chris Benoit
杀了他的妻子以及七岁的儿子 killed his wife, his seven-year-old son,
然后上吊自杀 and then hung himself.
他为什么这样做呢 在他房子里发现了激素 Why did he do it? Steroids found in the house.
激素使人产生自杀倾向 Steroids cause suicidal tendencies.
他们产生幻觉 他们听到声音 MAN: They hallucinate. They hear voices.
抑郁 疑神疑鬼 MAN #2: Depression, paranoia.
激素可能是导致这些的… Steroids could be the actual cause...
流言四起 Speculation is running wild.
你认为这些药能影响人的思维吗 Do you think these drugs could affect one's mind?
我们知道 Now we know.
雄性激素… 类固醇… - Testosterone... - Steroids...
关掉这些废话吧 CHRIS: Let's cut through the crap.
这是激素101 This is steroids 101.
首先 激素这个词 First of all, the term "steroids"
经常被误用来形容 所有的兴奋剂 Is often misused to describe any performance-enhancing drug
其实很多药 When in fact many of these drugs
都根本不是激素 are not actually steroids at all.
那么激素到底是什么呢 So what are steroids?
激素是在我们身体里 Well, steroids are synthetic versions
自然合成的荷尔蒙 of hormones that your body produces naturally,
比如可的松 这是一种激素 like cortisone- that's a steroid.
它能让身体消除炎症 It signals the body to break down inflammation.
避孕丸也是激素 Birth control pills are steroids too
由雌性激素 Made from the female sex hormones
动情素和黄体酮制成 estrogen and progesterone.
但是有很多负面报导的激素 But the steroids that get all the negative attention
是合成代谢类固醇 are anabolic steroids,
由雄性激素睾丸素制成 Made from the male sex hormone testosterone
它能让身体增大肌肉和力量 which tells the body to increase muscle size and strength
帮助身体从训练中快速恢复过来 and helps to recover from workouts faster.
跟其它药物一样 合成代谢 类固醇确实有副作用 Like any drug, anabolic steroids do have side effects.
如果滥用它们 副作用会更明显 And if you abuse them the side effects will be worse.
对于男性 他们会导致粉刺 For men, they can cause acne,
毛发生长 胆固醇增高 hair growth, raised cholesterol,
睾丸缩小 精子数下降 shrink your testicles and lower your sperm count,
甚至能导致不育 which could even make you sterile.
但是所有的这些副作用 But all of these side effects
都是可逆的 停药后症状会消失 are reversible when you go off the drugs.
除此之外 激素不会导致秃头 Otherwise, steroids don't cause baldness,
但如果有家族遗传 but if it runs in your family
它们可能会让你秃得更快 they might make you go bald faster.
它们还会导致男性乳腺发育 And they can also cause gynecomastia,
就像健身鼠们说的 "婊子奶" or what the gym rats call "bitch tits. "
对于女性来说 除了粉刺和毛发生长外 For women, in addition to acne and hair growth,
激素还会导致 声音低沉月经不调 steroids can cause a deepened voice, menstrual problems
阴蒂增大 and can enlarge the clitoris.
以上有些是不可逆的 And some of these are not reversible.
对于孩子来说 有专家认为 And for kids, some experts think
激素会导致生长板 提前关闭 阻碍孩子发育 steroids can stunt growth by closing growth plates prematurely.
但这其实还没得到证实 But that's actually never been proven.
也没有证据表明激素 会导致癌变 肾衰竭 There's also no proof that steroids cause cancer, kidney failure,
只有大剂量口服 and only oral steroids in high dosages
才会导致肝脏问题 can cause liver problems.
激素确实是1000种 And it's true that steroids can be one of 1000 risk factors
心脏病病因之一 但是与此同时 that could lead to heart disease, but then again
低雄性激素水平也是其中一种原因 low testosterone is another big risk factor.
还有突然发怒 激素能引起好斗情绪 And Roid Rage? Steroids can increase aggression,
但是只有5%的人会这样 but that only happens in about 5% of the population.
尽管如此 它们不会让你精神错乱 And even then, they can't make you psychotic.
至于慢性的副作用 And as for the long-term side effects,
还不清楚 没人做过相关实验 we don't know. No one's ever done those studies.
我们怎样才能界定一种行为 At what point do we say that a behavior is such
是人们不应该做的呢 that people just shouldn't be allowed to engage in it?
我是说 我们确实允许 I mean, we do allow people
人们做很多能够伤害他们自己的事 to do lots of things that can hurt themselves.
美国的新瘾君子整形成瘾 REPORTER: America's new junkies- plastic surgery addicts.
我整了眼睛 I've had my eyes done,
隆鼻 下巴开裂缝 rhinoplasty, chin cleft,
隆胸 隆二头肌 pectoral implants, bicep implants,
增大臀部 buttock augmentation.
这些是我现在能想起来的 And those are the ones I can remember right offhand.
常识告诉我们这样既危险又愚蠢 TV NARRATOR: Common sense tells you this is dangerous and foolish.
没有人会冒着 生命危险玩这种小把戏 You wouldn't risk your neck in a trick like this.
常识告诉我们 从大炮里面轰出来 Common sense tells us that being shot out of a cannon
非常危险 处理炸药 Is dangerous business. Handling dynamite-
看起来也很危险 This too looks dangerous.
不管是蹦极 RICK COLLINS: Whether it's bungee jumping
跳伞 or skydiving
还是滑雪 or black-diamond skiing-
都很有趣 All of them are fun to do
但做这些都要冒着极大的风险 But would subject one to tremendous risks
而这种风险是完全没有必要的 with no real necessity.
既然我们允许人们做其它危险的事 And so if we allow all of those other risks,
那么对于合成代谢类固醇 why is it that we're taking this position
我们的态度为什么变了 with respect to anabolic steroids?
他们齐头并进 COMMENTATOR: And it's a fair start.
1988年 韩国 首尔奥运会 CHRIS: 1988, Seoul, Korea.
加拿大短跑选手本约翰逊 A Canadian sprinter Ben Johnson
在100米短跑中 defeated his archrival Carl Lewis
打败了他的竞争对手卡尔刘易斯 in the 100-meter sprint
成为历史上跑得最快的人 to become the fastest man in history.
这真让人精神振奋 MAN: It sure got our spirit up.
好样的班尼 Just great. Hey, Benny!
但是24小时后 CHRIS: But 24 hours later
他的激素检测呈阳性 he tested positive for steroids
他们把金牌给了 我国选手卡尔刘易斯 and they gave the gold medal to our guy, Carl Lewis.
加拿大短跑选手 COLLINS: There was an international uproar
因使用激素而获胜 over the idea that this Canadian sprinter
这件事在国际上 had gotten an advantage based on his use
闹得沸沸扬扬 of anabolic steroids for its performance effect.
为此国会召开了几场听证会 And Congress responded by holding some hearings.
如果不使用兴奋剂 Ben Johnson would not have been in the finals.
本约翰逊可能无法进入决赛 He probably would not have been on the Olympic team
也可能没法参加奥运会代表队 had he not taken steroids.
国会想立法限制激素的使用 CHRIS: Congress wanted to pass a law that would control steroids
就像限制可卡因和海洛因一样 the same way as drugs like cocaine and heroin
他们召集了一批来自DEA and they called experts from the D.E.A.,
FDA和美国医学协会的专家 the F.D.A. and the American Medical Association.
但专家们都说不应该把激素 But they all testified that steroids should not be treated
当作非法药物对待 结果国会不理会这帮专家 like illicit drugs. So Congress disregarded their experts
1990年他们通过了 合成代谢类固醇限制令 and in 1990 they passed the Anabolic Steroid Control Act,
没有医生的处方 使用激素就是违法的 turning non-medical users into federal drug criminals.
这对健康没有多大影响 COLLINS: This wasn't so much about health effects.
它们能够构建肌肉 It was really on what these things do that's good
从这一方面来说 它们是好的 in the sense that they build muscle,
它们能提高人们的竞技水平 they improve the way that people can perform.
这在体育比赛中 And that in a sports context
是个大祸害 was seen as the ultimate evil.
如果用一个饼图 来代表使用激素的人 If we took a pie chart of steroid use
看看这块饼有多大的比例 and we looked at what percentage of that pie
是由职业运动员组成 is comprised of athletes
这个比例是很小的 it would be a very very small slice of that pie.
构成这块饼的大多数人 The overwhelming majority of the pie
是健身业余爱好者 is comprised of the recreational gym rat
他们通过这样来装点自己的门面 who's doing it purely for cosmetic reasons.
讽刺的是 我们通过立法 The irony is that we've addressed
把这件事的影响范围 a sports cheating issue
扩大到 by creating a law
那些没有在体育运动中作弊的人 that affects all the folks who aren't cheating in sports.
看看格雷戈里瓦伦蒂诺的手臂 REPORTER: One look at Gregory Valentino's arms
你就明白了 and you know something's going on.
这个40岁的人被告 The 40-year-old is charged with criminal possession
非法持有和意图 销售合成代谢类固醇 of anabolic steroids with intent to sell.
可能有人叫格雷瓦伦蒂诺 CHRIS: Some people may call Gregg Valentino
怪物 罪犯 我叫他邻居 a freak and a felon. I call him a neighbor.
他跟我奶奶住在同一条街道上 He lives down the block from my grandma.
他也刚好有世界上最大的二头肌 He also happens to have the biggest biceps in the world.
这么大 Holy crap.
在日常生活中 Do you have difficulty with just sort of
你有没有遇到什么困难 像做三文治这些小事 the regular things in life, like making a sandwich?
不 没有 No. No no.
我能打出一个90里每小时的快球 I can hit a 90-mile-an-hour fastball.
有人想挑战我吗 来吧 Any body wants to challenge me- let's do it.
我打给你们看 看着 I'll show you. Watch this.
Oh! Oh! Oh!
加油 格雷 Come on, Gregg.
我可不是巴里邦茨 Oof!
I told you I'm no Barry Bonds.
我是个食肉动物 我吃很多肉 I'm a red-meat man. I eat a lot of red meat.
你认为美国人为什么 Why do you think people in America are so uptight
会对激素和激素使用者这么紧张 About steroids and steroid users?
因为他们害怕 Because they fear-
他们害怕未知的事物 they fear what they don't know.
明白吗 You know?
难看死了 鬼才想变成那样呢 That's ugly. Who the hell would want to look like that?
我不想变成那样 I don't want to look like that.
你那时为什么想变成那样 Why did you want to look like that then?
嗯 我想变得更高大 Um, I mean, I like being big.
我的骨架很小 I had small-man complex, you know.
我说"我不想这么矮小" I'd be like, "I don't want to be little. "
我想变高 但是我没法长高 所以我就横向发展了 I wanted to be taller. I couldn't grow taller, so I grew wider.
我个人认为你在这张照片里 Personally I think in the picture that you showed me-
噢 我看起来好多了 你的手臂看起来 - Oh, I look better. - Your arms look a lot better there
比现在好很多 是吧 难道不是吗 than they look now, right? Wouldn't you agree?
绝对的 Without a doubt.
我情愿变成那样 你认为女孩们看到我 I would rather look like that. Do you think girls
会说"上帝啊 他好酷"吗 look at me and go, "oh My God, that's hot"?
她们会这样… "那真恶心" They like... "that's -ing gross. "
我走进俱乐部 最辣的女孩可能跟她男朋友在一起 I walk into a club and the hottest girl could be there with her boyfriend
看到我之后 and her boyfriend will see me
她男朋友就把她的脸转向其它地方 and mush her in the face to get over to me
然后对我说"哥们 这是" just to say to me, like, "dude, what the -?"
你吸引了男孩的注意而不是女孩 You're getting attention from the guys, not from the girl.
我不在乎 我没办法跟你解释 I don't give a shit. It's attention. I can't explain it to you.
这就像思维一样 你明白吗 It's like a mindset. Does that make sense or no?
我告诉你我是怎么做的 But I tell you what- when I'm done
我的二头肌很大 很庞大 my biceps are humongous, humongous.
就像这样砰 Like that- bam!
对于我来说 我左右为难 For myself, I'm kind of on the fence.
我有两个兄弟 他们都在使用 I have two brothers. They're both taking steroids
激素 现在还在用 right as we speak right now.
我不知道我是否想让 I don't know if I want people
别人认为我没作弊 to think I'm not cheating
然后看着我说 or to look at me and say,
"你的体格真好" "Wow, you know, you really have a great build. "
你们认为我应该借助 激素来达到这个目的吗 But do you think I should take steroids to get there?
我认为激素跟苹果派一样美国化 I think steroids are as American as apple pie.
我们生活在这样一个社会 We live in a society today that-
有MTV 真人秀 You got M.T.V. And reality shows,
麦当娜跟布莱妮乱搞 Madonna's making out with Britney Spears,
说唱乐和诸如此类的鬼东西 你还在为激素而烦恼吗 Rap music and all that shit, and you're worried about steroids?
小孩变成这样 "你是警察 你是匪徒" Kids are like, "- you, cop. - you, man,"
玩像侠盗猎车一样 可以杀死警察的游戏 Playing video games like grand theft auto where you're killing cops.
我认为这是远比激素 That's worse influence in my opinion than steroids will ever be,
比巴里邦茨的本垒打 更坏的影响 than Barry Bonds hitting home runs.
一个嘴上刚长毛的小子使用激素 There's a big difference between a kid taking steroids
和一个希望提高自己 who's only had hair on his dick a couple of years,
竞技水平的成人使用激素 as opposed to a grown man who's looking to perform better
这两者是有很大不同的 At a better level in sports.
史瓦辛格属于哪一种呢 And where is Schwarzenegger in all this?
我的意思是 他是海报上那个使用激素的男孩 I mean, he is the poster boy for steroids.
他是海报上那个好像在说"嗨 看看我 看看我的丰功伟绩 He's the poster boy for "hey, look, look at me, look what I did.
我来了 我征服所有人 把他们教训了一顿"的男孩 I came, I conquered, I kicked ass. "
他的自传说他 十五六岁就开始出风头了 That autobiography says he was doing it when he was 15-16.
他19岁就赢得了环球先生 19岁 Hey, he won Mr. Universe at 19 years old- 19.
你看过他19岁时的样子吗 Did you ever see what he looked like when he was 19?
你认为这是上帝赐予的还是 Do you think it was god-given genetics or do you think
兴奋剂的成果 that maybe he took the performance enhancers?
不管是摇滚乐手 健身者还是电影明星 A lot of people idolize these guys,
有很多人把他们当作偶像崇拜 whether it's a rock star, a bodybuilder, a movie star, whoever,
突然有一天见到他们 and all of a sudden you get to meet them
然后 却很失望 and, man, is it a let-down.
因为他们绝不是 表面上看起来的那样 Because they're never ever what they appear to be.
在公众场合看到这个人 他可能是这样 The guy you see in public like this
而私底下他可能是这样 has got the middle finger under the table going like this.
这不是"事实就是你所看到的" It's never "what you see is what you get. "
而是"你所看到的是他们想让你看的" It's "what you see is what they want you to see. "
人人都崇拜史瓦辛格的成长历程 Everybody idolized Schwarzenegger growing up.
人人都在想"我要去举重 Everybody thought, "man, I wanna lift weights
过像阿诺一样的生活 and life a pure life like Arnold.
我要各种蔬菜和蛋白质片 And I'm gonna eat all my vegetables and take my protein shakes.
我可能要搬去加利福尼亚 在黄金健身中心训练 Maybe I'll move out to California, train at Gold's Gym.
我会变得很高大 我会赢得所有的比赛 And I'm gonna get really big. I'm gonna win contests.
我也会成为电影明星" I'm gonna be a movie star too. "
让我们热烈欢迎一个 ANNOUNCER: Please welcome a man
用自身的经历体现了美国梦的人 whose story embodies the American dream.
我在美国学会的一件事是 One thing I learned about America is
如果你努力工作 循规蹈矩 that if you work hard and if you play by the rules
成功之门将会为你而开 this country is truly open to you.
成功之门将会为你而开 You can achieve anything.
哥们 那是 Dude, that is-
那是妄想 That is a pipe dream.
那是妄想 That is a pipe dream, okay?
想做到像阿诺一样 To get where Arnold got in life
你必须踩着别人上去 you have to be willing to step on a few fingers
伤害一些朋友的感情 把一些人拉下来 and step on a few friends and fuck a few people over.
想要达到目的就必须这样做 You don't get to that level without that.
在这个世界你要么做梭鱼 In this world you're either the barracuda
要么做到处游来游去的米诺鱼 or you're that little minnow swimming around like this.
阿诺是梭鱼 And Arnold's the barracuda.
让我们一起用哑铃 And we'll all exercise a little bit together
来做点训练 加油 用力 with the dumbbells. Come on now, let's do some presses here.
在老布什签暑了 CHRIS: In the same year that George Bush Sr. signed
激素限制令的同一年 他也让阿诺史瓦辛格 the Steroid Control Act he also made Arnold Schwarzenegger
当上了美国总统体能与竞技委员会主席 the chairman of the President's Council on Physical Fitness.
我感到很不解 So I'm confused.
总统是否认为一个 曾经使用过激素的人 Was the President saying that a former steroid user
还能成为孩子们的行为榜样 could still be a role model for kids?
你们会去锻炼吗 会 - Are you gonna exercise? - Yeah!
我们的肌肉会大起来 We're gonna pump up muscle!
史蒂夫罗杰斯进来了 TV NARRATOR: Enter Steve Rogers,
他太孱弱了不能参军 Too puny to be accepted by the army,
但他愿为国家冒生命危险 but willing to risk death for his country.
他在我们眼前变身了 He's changing right before our eyes!
瞬间就完成了 TV NARRATOR: Suddenly it is over
美国有了一个新的捍卫者 and America has a new champion.
你觉得为什么在美国 超级英雄很重要 CHRIS: Why do you think in America superheroes are so important?
人们需要英雄 STAN LEE: People need heroes,
不管在现实生活中还是科幻小说里 Whether in real life or in fiction,
因为他们需要人来鼓励他们 because they need somebody to inspire them,
需要一个目标 something to aim for,
一个学习的榜样 somebody to try to be like.
我认为没人不想 I think any boy would want
长得跟阿诺史瓦辛格一样强壮 to be built like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
你也想变成一个肌肉发达的人吗 Did you ever want to be big a muscular like that?
我有点想 当我去到沙滩上 I wanted to be a little- when I'd go to the beach
我常常希望我的手臂能变得强壮一些 I used to wish that my arms were a little stronger.
我看起来更像一个98磅重的瘦弱的人 I looked more like the 98-Ib weakling.
你有没有受到过查尔斯 阿特拉斯连环漫画的鼓舞 Did that ever inspire you, that Charles Atlas comic strip?
你笔下的人物有没有受到它的影响 它影响了每一个人 - Did that inspire some of your characters? - It inspired everybody.
让我教教你们怎样变得强壮 CHARLES ATLAS: Let me teach you how to become strong.
小时候留在你脑海中的印象 When you're young you get impressions
大多数会持续一辈子 That pretty much last you all your life.
如果你们加快速度 If you step up and show up
勤快练习 你们就会走上赛场 and play hard, you're gonna play.
好的 休息一下 All right, get a break.
放松一下 小伙子们 Rock 'n' roll, fellas!
臭臭现在是当地 CHRIS: Smelly's now a coach
一所高中的足球队教练 for the local high-school football team.
有点像阿诺 他为这些孩子做些事 Kind of like Arnold, he just wants to give back to the kids.
回到学校对我来说很痛苦 MARK: Going to school was pretty painful for me.
我时常发现像我当初一样的孩子 Oftentimes I can find the kid who is like me
他们缺乏自信 and maybe doesn't have the best confidence
我告诉他怎样举重 and show him how to lift weights
帮助他从外在和内心都建立起信心 and build him up physically and mentally.
他是那种 BOY: He's the kind of guy
能使你的生活慢慢改变的人 who would get in your life and slowly turn it around.
他让我继续努力 他鼓励我积极争取 He keeps me going. He keeps me motivated about something.
当他跟那些高中生在一起时 When he works with those high school kids
他充满了热情 并不是所有的孩子 that's his passion. Not a lot of kids
一生下来就有强壮的体格 Have a strong male figure in their life.
我的意思是 很多人都很自私 I mean, a lot of people- they're usually very selfish,
但是他不自私 我从来没有见过像他一样的人 but he's not. I've never really met anyone that's like that.
在俄亥俄州的哥伦布 有个健身中心 CHRIS: There's a gym in Columbus, Ohio,
全世界最强壮的家伙都在那里训练 Where the strongest guys in the world train.
它的名字是West Side Barbell It's called West Side Barbell.
臭臭就是在这里跟他的 偶像路易西蒙斯学习 And this is where Smelly learned from his role model, Louie Simmons.
像大多数人一样 我的人生观是 I've got a philosophy like many- when you go to war
在战场上 你是去杀人 不是被人杀 you go to kill. You don't go to get killed.
在这里没有人 There's nobody in this place
不想成为世界上最顶尖的运动员 that's not trying to be the best athlete in the world.
每个人都想获得最大的成功 Everybody here is trying to achieve an elite level of success.
很可能小时候你就想 成为最强壮的孩子了 Pretty much as you're a kid you always want to be the strongest.
我常常想当最强壮的人 I always wanted to be the strongest guy.
现在还是这样想 And I still want to be that, you know.
1959年我爸爸给我看了一本书 SIMMONS: In 1959 my father showed me a book.
是有关俄罗斯人使用激素的 It was about the Russians taking testosterone.
当时我问"这是什么鬼东西 So I said, "what the hell?
要是有机会拿到 我也想试试" 后来我试了 First chance I got, I'm gonna do some of this. " and so I did.
我已经使用了36年的激素 I've actually been on anabolic steroids for 36 years.
Matt Matt Matt Matt Matt Matt Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt!
举起来 举起来 Up up up up up!
我是该从道德上反对激素 CHRIS: Is it something I should be morally battling
还是该赞成使用它 or should I be fine with doing it?
每个人的道德规范都不一样 Your morals are your morals, not mine.
我有什么资格评判你 你又有什么资格评判我 Who am I to judge you? And who are you to judge me?
你想变得强壮还是虚弱 You want to be strong or you want to be weak?
不用激素就不能变得强壮吗 But you can't be strong without doing steroids?
你没办法变得最强壮 You can't be as strong as possible.
想达到顶峰就必须这样做 If you want to reach the top you're gonna have to do it.
人人都认为激素是最简单的办法 Everybody thinks anabolic steroids is the easy way out.
使用激素的人比 The people that train with anabolic steroids
没用激素的人更加努力训练 train way harder than people that don't.
不管人们怎么看待巴里邦茨 Regardless of what people think of Barry Bonds,
你没办法使用一整瓶雄激素 you can't take a bottle of testosterone,
然后穿上巴里的棒球服 put on Barry's baseball uniform
打出700个本垒打 and make him hit 700 home runs.
巴里肯定要参加训练 才能打出700个本垒打 Barry's got to go out, train and hit the 700 home runs.
但是如果科学家们 But what if the scientists came up
发明一种比合成 代谢类固醇更好的药呢 with something better than anabolic steroids?
这是一头牛 这是一头庞大强壮的牛 You see cows, you see immense, powerful cows,
他们的基因被改造了 And they basically have changed their genes.
如果你的基因能被改造 这样算不算违法呢 If they can change your genes, would that be illegal?
那时会怎么样呢 只好禁止一切体育运动了 What would they do then? Just ban sports in general?
上帝啊 Oh My Lord.
当人们看到这些牛 头脑中的第一个问题就是 When people see these, is the first question
"你给它们注射了多少荷尔蒙" "how many hormones do you pump into them?"
这句话有两个意思 第一个是 Well, it's two comments. One would be,
"天哪 你对它做了什么" "oh my gosh, what did you do to that thing?"
第二个是"它看起来像阿诺史瓦辛格" And secondly, "it looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger. "
这是一只比利时蓝牛 CHRIS: This is a Belgian Blue Bull-
重2600磅 全身都是肉 纯天然的 2600 Ibs, all muscle, all natural.
告诉我 你是纯天然的 So tell me again, you're all natural?
你没有注射任何东西 You're not taking anything?
我想你已经做好 面对国会的准备了 I think you're ready for Congress.
他有一对基因突变了 He has a genetic mutation
所以他能长出双倍的肌肉 that allows him to grow double muscle.
科学家们已经弄明白 And scientists have figured out
怎样用同样的方法改造人的基因 how to genetically alter humans the same way.
李 斯威尼博士正在 研究如何使用这项技术 Dr. Lee Sweeney is using this technology
来治疗肌肉萎缩症 to try to cure muscular dystrophy.
越来越明显地 It's obviously going to become more and more evident
我们所说的天赋 that what we call talent
其实只是基因变异 is really genetic variation.
改造基因能够带给 There's genetic enhancement available that might be able
人们他们自然情况下没有的东西 to give you what nature didn't give you.
至今还没有一种方法 Trying to figure out how to do it in the safest way
能安全地改造基因 Is something that hasn't been worked out.
如果你发现这样做是安全的 If you find out that it's safe,
你会不会告诉世人"嗨" would you be somebody who would say, "hey-"?
是的 我会第一个这么做 Yeah, I would be first in line.
这看起来像 'Cause it seems like this is
未来的运动基因兴奋剂 the future of sports- gene doping.
基因兴奋剂对吗 我不会用的 Gene doping, yeah. I wouldn't do it.
基因兴奋剂会 毁掉美国的体育运动吗 Will gene doping ruin sports in America?
我认为不会 我的意思是 I don't think so. I mean, I think
每次有新的科技出现 any time there's a new technology
大家都会说"好的 我们先靠后站 everyone says, "okay, we have to stand back
想想它对社会来说意味着什么" and think about what this is really gonna mean to society. "
我想这是未来几十年 And I think that's the debate
我们将要辩论的问题 we will come to in the coming decades.
你知道运动家精神意味着什么吗 TV NARRATOR: Good sportsmanship- you know what that means?
公平竞争 Play fair.
小时候 作弊都是很明显的 CHRIS: When I was a kid cheating was pretty clear-cut,
像那个百万富翁雇用 like when the million dollar man hired the referee's
裁判的双胞胎兄弟夺走了霍肯的冠军称号 evil twin brother to cheat the Hulkster out of his title.
哪一个才是大卫赫布纳 COMMENTATOR: Is that Dave Hebner or is that Dave Hebner?
作弊在不同的运动项目中也有所不同 You know, cheating in other sports wasn't all that different.
还记得乔尼克罗 Remember when Joe Necro
用金属片来磨球吗 was hot-scuffing the ball with an emery board?
有东西从他的口袋里掉出来 COMMENTATOR: Something came out of his pocket.
爱国者跟海豚队比赛时 Chris: And what about when the Patriots were playing the Dolphins
他们雇了个前科犯 And they hired an ex-con to clear
帮射门员清理雪道 a spot in the snow for the field-goal kicker?
不能这么做 You can't do that.
这是我见过的 I think it's the most unfair thing
最不公平的事 that I've ever been associated in.
罗西路易斯赢得波士顿马拉松赛 CHRIS: Or like when Rosie Ruiz won the Boston Marathon.
神秘的获胜者 我们在每一个检查站都没有见到她 The mystery woman winner. We missed her at all our checkpoints.
可以搭巴士 为什么要使用激素呢 CHRIS: Why take steroids when you can take a bus?
谁能忘记托雅哈丁 And who can forget when Tonya Harding
雇凶打断了 南希克里根的膝盖 hired a goon to take out Nancy Kerrigan's knee?
为什么？为什么？ Why? Why?
你不能打他们 I guess if you can't beat 'em,
不能用铅管打他们 beat 'em with a lead pipe.
但是激素不同 But somehow steroids seem kind of different.
我认为自己在大学或学院里 I thought in undergraduate school and in college
是个很好的运动员 I was a pretty good athlete.
但是我很生气 But I find myself angry,
非常生气 angry in my gut
因为有些家伙打败了我 because these are the same guys that would have taken me out,
但不是因为上帝 给他们更多的天份 taken me out not because they had
而是因为他们 more god-given natural talent than me
使用一些人工方法 来提高竞技水平 but because they enhanced with artificial means.
如果使用激素是作弊 CHRIS: If using steroids is cheating,
看起来有一群人都参与作弊 seems like a whole bunch of other stuff should be cheating too.
举个例子老虎伍兹 做了镭射视力矫正手术 Take Tiger Woods, for example. He had Lasik eye surgery
现在他的视力是20/15 简直太完美了 and now his vision is 20/15. That's better than perfect.
我的视力稳定了 比赛时也发挥得好多了 WOODS: My eyes are stable. My game's a lot better.
我感觉状态良好 I felt pretty good coming in.
在一项如此依赖视力的比赛上 CHRIS: In a game that relies so much on depth perception,
有千里眼算不算是一种兴奋剂 wouldn't superhuman vision be a performance enhancement?
然后是可的松 Then there's cortisone shots.
它们帮助席林 在世锦赛上夺冠 They helped Curt Schilling win the World Series.
这些也是激素 And those are steroids too.
事实是皮质激素类 比合成代谢类固醇副作用大 Truth is, corticosteroids can have worse side effects than anabolic steroids,
但是它们每天都被用在体育上 but they're used in sports every day.
星期一的比赛后他的后背肌肉抽筋 He had a 20-minute cortisone shot
他注射了20分钟的可的松 after Monday's match after his back tightened up.
还有个更加令人不解的例子 CHRIS: Here's an even more confusing example-
弗洛伊德兰迪斯声称他 Floyd Landis claims
没有用激素来赢得 职业公路自行车赛 that he did not take steroids to win the Tour De France.
事实是我没有像被控告的那样 LANDIS: Truth is, I didn't use testosterone
用雄性激素 我没有作弊 like I'm accused of doing. I didn't cheat.
我没有做任何违规的事 I didn't do anything outside of the rules.
我赢得光明正大 I won the Tour clean and I deserved to win.
我永远会为此感到自豪 I'm proud of it and I always will be.
但他确实睡在他的压力室里 CHRIS: But he did sleep in his own altitude chamber.
现在我把压力室 I got my altitude chamber
搬到车库外了 out by the garage these days.
这是你做的 So you made this?
是的 它并不难做 Yeah, it's not actually that hard to make.
那根管子不是我做的 是从建筑工地拿来的 I didn't make the pipe. I got the pipe from some construction site.
他们把它放在总水管里 They were putting in a water main.
效果怎样 Is the result pretty good?
对我来说效果很好 For me it makes a difference, yeah.
你需要在这里面呆多久 And how long do you stay in here for?
一整晚都睡在里面 大概六七小时 Just sleep in there all night. I don't know, six or seven hours.
你妻子会不会说 "你要去干什么" Is your wife like, "what are you doing?"
"我要去压力室里睡" "I'm gonna sleep in the chamber. "
她讨厌这个东西 She hates it.
你是爬进去吗 So you just climb in there?
是的 想试试吗 Yeah, you want to try it out?
这里没有压力表 You won't have a monitor in there, but I have it set
但我把压力设在一万三左右 to, like, about 13,000'.
在压力室里睡觉 CHRIS: See, sleeping in an altitude chamber
身体会制造出更多的血红细胞 produces a lot more red blood cells,
这意味着身体系统里有更多的氧气 which means more oxygen in your system,
自行车手和长跑选手 因此有更强的忍耐力 which means more endurance for a cyclist or a long-distance runner.
有四个方法可以 增加你的血红细胞指数 There are four ways to increase your red blood cell count.
你可以像弗洛伊德一样睡在压力室里 You can sleep in an altitude chamber like Floyd
或者参加美国奥林匹克中心 or you can just train at the U.S. Olympic training center
在海拔6000英尺的科罗拉多训练 at 6,000' in Colorado.
第三种方法是输血 Then there's blood doping.
在比赛前一个月 先把自己的血液抽出来 That's when you draw your own blood a month before the big race,
然后在比赛前一晚 再把它注射进去 then re-inject it the night before.
最后 有一种叫EPO的药 Finally, there's a drug called E.P.O.
能让你的身体 which simply tells your body
制造出更多的血红细胞 to produce more red blood cells.
要达到同一个目的 共有四种方法 So that's four ways to do the exact same thing,
有两种是允许的 有两种属于作弊 but two are allowed and two are cheating.
行了吗 You done yet?
感觉很奇怪 Hey. That's kind of weird.
不会吧这种方法很好 习惯之后 在里面睡觉感觉挺好 No, it's nice, man. Once you get used to it it's nice sleeping in there.
令人心碎的是我八岁的孩子 SCOTT REID: What's heartbreaking is my eight-year-old-
最崇拜的两个运动员是 巴里邦茨和兰斯阿姆斯特朗 his two favorite athletes are Barry Bonds and Lance Armstrong.
我四岁的孩子很喜欢 弗洛伊德兰迪斯 My four-year-old is obsessed with Floyd Landis.
该怎么跟这些孩子说呢 我经常跟别人讨论这些问题 So what do you tell these kids? I talk to people all the time
然后他们会问 "我的孩子该相信谁呢" That they go, "who can my kids believe in?"
我很想告诉他们"没有人" And I want to tell them is "nobody. "
请不要审判我 I ask not to be judged and much less
更别宣判我 to be sentenced by anyone.
现在我们无法相信任何人 因为测试结果很不准确 You can't trust anybody now because the testing is so ineffective.
你不知道谁是肮脏的 谁是干净的 You don't know who's really clean, who's really dirty.
比赛之前你有没有使用某些药物 CHRIS: Were you taking any sort of drugs for that race?
不是他们找到的那些 Not what they fined me with, no.
但是你使用了其它东西 其它东西 是的 - But you were taking other stuff. - Other stuff, yeah.
但那不也还是作弊吗 But isn't that still cheating?
是的 也还是作弊 跟其他人一样 Still cheating, yeah, like everybody else.
你就是这样为自己辩解的 So that's how you justify it-
人人都有作弊 是的 - Everybody's cheating? - Yes.
我采访本约翰逊时他说 When I interviewed Ben Johnson he basically said,
"看 人人都有作弊" "look, everybody was on something. "
嗯 愿上帝保佑他 Well, you know, Ben- and bless his heart,
本一定得说人人都作弊 he's got to say everyone was on something.
这是他为自己的行为找的借口 That's justifying his own means.
所以他输给你后一直耿耿于怀 So he has a problem with you beating-
是的 他耿耿于怀 he has a problem- he has a problem
输给我之后 是的 - of, you know, me beating him. - Yeah.
当我们站在领奖台上 When we were taking that victory stand,
我们站在台上 他获得了金牌 we were on the stand and he got the gold medal,
他却没有笑 他从来不笑 he didn't smile. He never smiled.
他从来不因此而庆祝 原因就是 He never celebrated. And the thing is,
他心里根本没有胜利的喜悦 他作弊了 he couldn't really inside share in the joy of winning. He cheated.
我作弊 大家都作弊 You cheat. Everybody cheats.
在这个世界上没有人是完美的 Nobody in this world is perfect.
没人在生活中是完美的 没有 Nobody in this life is perfect- nobody.
大家都知道1988在首尔 六个美国人最终检测呈阳性 They know that in 1988 six Americans at least
但是他们都缄口不提 tested positive in Seoul. And they all shut up
因为奥运会的最大资金来源是美国 because the biggest money comes from America.
谁才是众矢之的 So who's gonna get shafted,
美国人还是本约翰逊 Americans or Ben Johnson?
我认为本约翰逊 不应该被挑出来 DR. WADE EXUM: I think that Ben Johnson was unfairly singled out.
当替罪羔羊 I think that there's always scapegoats.
奥运会上是不是有 很多使用违禁药的事发生 Is there a lot of drug use going on in Olympics?
噢 绝对有 绝对有 Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
Exum博士当了10年的 CHRIS: Dr. Exum was the Director of Anti-Doping
美国奥委会反兴奋剂理事 at the U.S. Olympic Committee for 10 years.
他以为他的工作是 禁止兴奋剂在运动中的使用 He thought his job was to stop drugs in sports,
但是他的上司们却有 其它事情要优先考虑 but his bosses had other priorities.
他告诉我有超过2000个 He told me that over 2000 American athletes
美国运动员药检没通过 其中包括卡尔刘易斯 failed their drug tests, including Carl Lewis,
但是这些都被掩盖起来了 and they were covered up.
没人会相信卡尔刘易斯药检没通过 Nobody believes Carl Lewis ever failed a drug test.
有证据吗 当然 - Do you have any proof? - Oh, certainly.
我所说的每一件事都有一堆证据 We have just boxes of proof for everything that I say.
就在这里 第三册 There it is, book three.
这封信是执行理事Baaron Pittenger Here's a letter from then Executive Director
写给刘易斯先生的 Baaron Pittenger to Mr. Lewis.
我必须告诉你 对你'B'号取样的分析结果显示 CHRIS: "I must confirm that the analysis for your specimen 'B'
麻黄碱 假麻黄碱 was positive for pseudoephedrine, ephedrine,
和苯丙醇胺 And phenylpropanolee- lamine-
是这个吗 苯丙醇胺 是的 - Is that what is is? - Phenylpropanolamine, yeah.
这些IOC明令禁止的兴奋剂 呈阳性反应 IOC banned stimulants.
根据美国奥委会的规定 这个结果会导致 By policy of the U.S.O.C., this finding is cause
取消参加1988年 for disqualification from the Olympic team
韩国首尔奥运会的资格" to the 1988 Summer Olympic Games in Seoul, Korea. "
噢 Wow.
这封信很明确地说 This is basically a letter that said
药检没通过 that you had failed the test
和将带来的后果 and that there was a consequence to that failure.
大家都知道 这后果没有发生 As we all know, that didn't come about.
所以你只是收到一封信 或者接到一个电话 You actually received a letter, or a call-
是的 说你药检没通过 - Yes. - -that you had failed the drug test-
对 因为含兴奋剂的东西吗 - Right. - -because of some stimulants?
是的 比如 Yeah, it was like
一些感冒药 药草补充剂 a cold medicine type thing, the herbal supplement.
他们发明了一个词"非有意使用" They made up this term. It was called "inadvertent use"-
运动员使用某种药物 an athlete took something without meaning to take it
是无意的或者不是 故意想为自己增加优势 or without meaning to gain an advantage from taking it.
嗯 所以他们把这些编造出来 Mm-hmm. And so they made that up
好让运动员们摆脱困境 to basically kind of let people off the hook?
噢 是的 是的 Oh, yeah. Yeah.
卡尔是因为吃了感冒药 Carl's story is- it's been a cold medicine;
或者是因为一杯茶 或者是某种营养品 it's been a tea; it's been some kind of a nutrient.
其实是兴奋剂 你是说这些运动员 - It's a stimulant. - CHRIS: So you're saying these athletes-
其实是知道禁用内含物质清单 they know what's on the banned substance list?
他们都知道 They totally know.
他们无视禁用内含物质清单 They are bombarded with the banned substance list.
很多人都说你药检不通过 A lot of people say you failed the drug test,
你跟本约翰逊比赛 you raced against Ben Johnson,
或许 或许金牌 and that maybe- maybe the gold medal
应该给那个站在亚军席上的 我明白 - should go to the guy next on the stand. - I understand.
很多人到死都会说 There are a lot of people that are going to go to their graves saying,
"我知道他有用兴奋剂" 知道吗他们真该死 "I know he did it. " and you know what? To hell with them.
这真不该怪罪运动员 DR. EXUM: You really cannot fault the athlete for doing that.
不应该责怪卡尔 因为他的信仰是 You can't fault Carl when Carl's belief is
你必须遵守这个体制制订的规则 that the system sets some rules and that you need to follow them.
这个体制对他网开一面 And they made an exception in his case.
这个体制也对很多人都网开一面 They made an exception in a lot of people's cases.
但其实是这个体制 But it's the system
教运动员们这么想的 that actually teaches athletes to think that way.
对我来说 You know, for me
这整个"公平竞争环境" 都是杜撰出来的 the whole "level playing field" was a myth.
如果我们无法让体育活动远离兴奋剂 If we could not do anything to take doping out of sports
那么兴奋剂就注定要跟体育活动一起 then doping was meant to be in sports.
第一届全药运动会今天在 歌伦比亚波哥大开幕 The first all-drug Olympics opened today in Bogota, Colombia.
不管是在赛前 赛后 还是比赛过程中 Athletes are allowed to take any substance whatsoever
运动员们都可以使用各种药物 before, after, and even during the competition.
噢他拉断了自己的手臂 Oh! He's pulled his arms off!
他拉断了自己的手臂 俄罗斯人要失望了 He's pulled his arms off. That's got to be disappointing to the big Russian.
Yeah!
是什么使得运动主项目 What has made every major sport
变成了几十亿美元的实业 a multi-billion-dollar entity?
揭开它的面纱后 Well, after you distill it all down,
你就会发现它 其实是消费者的欲望 it's the desire of the customer,
坐满全场的粉丝们 the fans that fill these seats and others,
想看到大名鼎鼎的人 做不同寻常的事 to see bigger-than-life people doing bigger-than-life things.
你对运动员使用激素有什么看法 CHRIS: What do you think about athletes using steroids in sports?
激素 在我们队伍使用就好了 Steroids? I love it if they're on my team.
我认为这样做很不对 很不对 I think it's totally wrong, totally wrong.
违规 该罚下场 这不是作弊吗 - Worst offense. Throw them out. - It's cheating?
是的 是作弊 你在开玩笑吧 Hell yeah, it's cheating. Are you kidding me?
噢 MAN: Oh!
全都是因为钱 MAN: It all gets back to money.
只要大家还买 As long as people continue to buy
麦奎尔衬衫 巴里邦茨帽子 Mark McGuire shirts, Barry Bonds hats,
我们就继续养着这头怪物 we're feeding that monster.
戴突袭者帽就是为突袭者投票 You vote for the Raiders by wearing the Raiders hat.
穿耐克T恤就是为耐克投票 You cast your vote for Nike with your T-shirt.
每天从口袋里拿钱出来 You know, every day when you pick a dollar out of your pocket
就是在投票 如果你不喜欢 you're voting. And if you don't like
运动员们使用兴奋剂 就别为他们投票 athletes juicing up, then don't vote to have that done.
别买他们的东西 别去看比赛 Don't buy their stuff. Don't go to the game.
使用激素 当上州长 Do steroids. Become governor.
变得高大威猛 不再是娘娘腔 Be big and strong, no girly man.
巨人 宝贝 - The Giants, baby! - Whoo!
曲棍球 Shockey!
激素丑闻爆发后 Whoo!
CHRIS: Since the steroid scandals broke
体育收入激增 sports revenue has gone through the roof.
人们买了更多的 入场票和纪念T恤 People are buying more tickets, T- shirts as souvenirs than ever.
如果我们是为这些而投票 So if this is what we the people are voting for,
跟国会有什么关系呢 why did Congress get involved?
他们经常说 有困难 They always tell you that if you have a problem,
找国会议员 Talk to your Congressman.
幸运的是 我的国会议员是亨利瓦克斯曼 Lucky for me, my Congressman is Henry Waxman.
嗨 你好吗 我很好 你呢 - Hey, how are you? - I'm fine. How are you?
很高兴见到你 我是克里斯贝尔 Very nice to meet you. Chris Bell.
他是第一个召开 CHRIS: He's the one who called
棒球听证会的人 the baseball hearings in the first place.
他应该会有答案 He's got to have some answers.
我认为在职业体育联盟赛中 I think it's important
运动员 for sports figures
在任何情况下 in major league sports
都不能 not to be allowed
都不能使用激素 to use steroids under any circumstance.
对于年轻人 And for young people-
我们当然不希望他们使用激素 we certainly don't want them to be using it.
这种药是限制使用的 So the drug is a restricted drug.
它没有 没有一种 It's not- there's not a-
让我 Let me-
布莱恩 任何情况下使用都是违法的 Brian, is it illegal to use-?
违法 在某些情况下 it's illegal- it's legal
是合法的 哪些情况 under some circumstances. What's-?
有医学处方就是合法的 BRIAN: It's legal with a prescription-
合法的 好的 医学处方 - legal with- okay. - -A medical prescription.
有医学处方就是合法的 It's legal with a medical prescription.
另一种药是… And the other drug was the...
所有的激素还是仅雄性激素 testosterone or just steroids in general.
他们都是禁止的 Well, I think that they're also banned.
他们一早就在职业比赛中被禁止了 They're already banned in professional sports.
布莱恩对吗 如果错了告诉我一声 Brian, am I right? Speak up if I'm wrong.
好的 - Yes. - Okay.
他们已经被禁了 Well, these products are already banned.
香烟和酒精 Cigarettes and alcohol
可通过合法途径获得 are legally available,
但是要够年龄才行 but not if you're under the age.
全国规定 And I think the age
年龄应该是18岁 is 18 for both all around the country.
是18还是21我忘了 什么 Is it 18 or 21? I'm getting confused. What?
21岁 21岁 - BRIAN: 21. - CHRIS: 21.
把这段剪掉 没关系的 - Okay, so strike that. - That's all right.
布什总统拔了1500万美元 President Bush allotted
用于激素教育 $15 million for steroid education.
钱花在哪了 Where has that money gone?
嗯 我不知道 Um, I don't know.
你知道吗 Do you know?
我们都不知道 Okay, we don't know.
好的 所以… - Okay. - So...
这是一场跟毒品的战争 JEFF TAYLOR: It's a war on drugs
国会议员们想跟毒品作战到底 and Congressmen want to be tough on drugs,
所以就把它们全都打成邪派 so they just demonize them all.
他们说"噢 我们的孩子们 受到它们的毒害 And they say, "oh, our children are being exposed to them.
它们会杀死我们的孩子" They're gonna kill our children. "
他们把世界画成黑白的 And they just paint everything in black and white.
却看不到中间地带 And they really don't see the areas in between.
对于像我们一样生存在次贫地区的人 For those of us who live in the grey areas
和靠它们生存的人来说 and whose life depends on it.
这个问题很重要 It's a very important issue.
政客们总想 Politicians are always looking
借题发挥 for an issue to get behind.
他们总想寻找一些 They're always looking for something
可以让他们在公众面前露脸的事 to be able to say to the public,
他们会说"嘿 看看我们的法律做了些什么 "hey, look at what my legislation's doing.
看看我们的议案做了些什么 Look at what my bill has done.
这跟我无关 我会保护你们 I'm out there. I'm protecting you.
我会保护孩子们" I'm protecting the children. "
在棒球听证会上 CHRIS: Turns out the most important witness
最重要的证人却不是某位运动员 at the baseball hearings was not a famous athlete.
泰勒胡顿是个17岁的孩子 Taylor Hooton was a 17-year-old kid
他自杀了 他父亲把这归咎于激素 who committed suicide and his father blamed steroids.
我相信职业运动员们 I believe the poor example
树立的坏榜样 being set by professional athletes
是种主要的催化剂 is a major catalyst fueling
催化了激素在孩子们中间的广泛使用 the high usage of steroids amongst our kids.
全美国的父母们 And parents across America
都应该为这种导致 should hold you accountable
我们的孩子做出伤害自己的事 for behavior that inspires our kids
的行为负责 to do things that put their health at risk
并从道德上教育孩子们 and that teaches them that the ethics
我们试图在饭桌上教育他们 we try to teach them around our kitchen table
他们却不听 somehow don't apply to them.
请帮帮我们 让我们看到 Please help us to see
孩子们的生命不会虚度 that our children's lives were not lost in vain.
你们有权力为此做些什么 You have the power to do something about it
我们也都指望你们了 and we're counting on you to do so.
唐纳德胡顿出现了 JOHN SWEENEY: Donald Hooton coming in
让我们看到它人性化的一面 and putting a human face on it
这比任何的科学数据 was more powerful than the scientific-
都更有说服力 the statistics or any of that stuff.
在美国 平均每年 CHRIS: On average, 5,000 kids a year
有5千个孩子自杀 commit suicide in America.
大部分父母都不知道原因 And most parents never know exactly why.
我想知道为什么 唐纳德胡顿这么确定 I wanted to find out why Donald Hooton is so sure
答案就是激素 that the answer could be as simple as steroids.
你好吗 很好 - How are you doing? - Fine.
我是克里斯贝尔 我是唐纳德胡顿 很高兴见到你 - Chris Henry. - Don Hooton. Nice to meet you.
这个社会到处充满了竞争 This is a very very competitive community
从体育运动到商业活动 all the way from athletics to business.
结果是在富足的地方 So you wind up in an affluent area
孩子们买得起这些东西 where these kids can afford to play with this stuff.
事后我们回顾起来 And of course in hindsight as we look back,
很多征兆都浮现在眼前 all of the signs were staring us in the face-
行为的问题 身体的变化 The behavior problems, the physical changes,
但那时我们没有意识到发生了什么事 but we had no idea what we were looking at.
如果翻翻医书就会知道 If we go back to the medical textbook,
激素使用会导致严重的压抑症 the depression that comes along with steroid use is bad,
但是停药后的第四至六星期 but it's worse in that four-to-six-week period
情况会更糟糕 following stopping using this stuff.
就是在那段时间 And it was during that period
他妈妈发现他 that his mother found him
在卧室门上上吊 hanging on the door in his bedroom.
上帝啊 Jeez.
勒泰胡顿 Taylor Hooton's dad, Don Hooton,
死后不久 唐纳德胡顿 called me shortly after
就打了个电话给我 Taylor had taken his life.
我们一起出了这个主意 Together we came up with the idea
成立一个私人组织… of creating a private organization...
…用于教育公众 ...to educate the public
滥用合成代谢类固醇 about the dangers
的危险性 of anabolic steroid abuse.
这是泰勒的房间 This is Taylor's room.
一进来就可以知道 You don't have to come in here long to realize
泰勒是个棒球选手 Taylor was a baseball player.
因为他从大约5岁起 就开始打儿童棒球 'Cause he started maybe five years old in T-ball.
泰勒是个好孩子 But Taylor was a great kid.
我们带他去看精神医生 We took Taylor to a psychiatrist
她给他服用了少量的抗抑郁剂 and she put him on a low dose of Lexapro.
据我所知 And as far as I know,
这是这位好心的精神病医生 听过的唯一一个 this is the only steroid-related case
跟激素有关的病例 that this well-meaning psychiatrist had ever had.
当医生建议泰勒去戒毒 And when the psychiatrist recommended that Taylor go cold turkey
停止使用激素时… and stop using steroids...
悲剧发生了 it was a formula for disaster.
泰勒胡顿的事让我感到很痛心 I feel terrible, obviously, about Taylor Hooton,
但泰勒胡顿有很多其它问题 But Taylor Hooton had a lot of problems
他也使用其它药物 and he was on other drugs.
根据报纸披露 According to some newspaper accounts,
他还用了再摄取抑郁剂 抗抑郁剂 he was on S.S.R.I.S- antidepressants
这些都会导致 which have been shown to be associated
自杀倾向和自杀行为 with suicidal ideation and suicidal behavior.
所以他的自杀是由于抗抑郁剂 So whether his suicide was due to Lexapro
激素还是精神压抑 or due to steroids or due to depression
或者是想成为杰出运动员的压力 or due to stress of being a great athlete,
以上五个因素我不知道是哪个 there are five other things- I don't know.
你会不会认为 Do you think that perhaps-
当我看到你的网页 when I look at your website,
泰勒胡顿基金会 The Taylor Hooton Foundation-
你觉得应该 do you think it's a responsibility
把抗抑郁剂包含在里面 to include antidepressants in there
以防有人会批评 just in case there are critics
或者仅仅提醒大家 or just to raise the awareness
抗抑郁剂也可能有危险吗 of how dangerous perhaps antidepressants may be?
不 我不这样认为 原因是 No, I don't. And the reason is,
我们是跟激素作战 不是跟抗抑郁剂作战 our battle is not with antidepressants. Our battle's with steroids.
国家研究所有关于 滥用药物是这样说的 The National Institute on Drug Abuse said
合成代谢类固醇的危险性 the dangers of anabolic steroids
是暂时的 可逆的 are temporary and reversible.
我儿子死了 My son is dead.
这些知识分子 All of the intellectual arguments
关于激素 about whether or not
是否有危险的争论 steroids are dangerous or not
对我来说都没有意义了 don't matter to me.
我知道它们很危险 I know they're dangerous.
我亲眼看到 我看到我儿子死了 I saw it with my own eyes and I watched my son die.
我需要的证据只是 The only evidence I need is the pictures of my son
挂在你身后墙上 我儿子的照片 that are on the wall behind you.
Mm-hmm.
我也有个儿子 JOHN ROMANO: Look, I have a son too.
我觉得我最不愿意看到的事 And the last thing in the world I could ever imagine doing
就是那孩子死去 那可能会 is burying that kid. And it would probably
毁了我的余生 ruin me for the rest of my life.
我明白孩子死后 And I can see where having a cause
做些减轻负罪感 to sort of assuage the feelings of guilt
减轻压抑的事 可能是有益的 and depression that are following my son's death
"别让这样的悲剧发生在别人身上" 这种想法是对的 would probably be helpful. "Let's not let this happen to somebody else. "
但是他们搞错方向了 But they're chasing the wrong thing.
他们的方法不对 They're not doing it right.
我们现在跟职业棒球联盟一起合作 We're working with major league baseball
想让 to make that happen now
每一个当地体育场 where hopefully in each local stadium
都举办一个激素警觉夜 there's gonna be a steroid awareness night.
你觉不觉得有点讽刺 Do you find it ironic at all
在一个有卖酒精的运动场里 to have a steroid awareness night for baseball
为棒球举办一个激素警觉夜 in a stadium that sells alcohol
而同时酒精是一种 该为很多死亡负责的毒药 which is responsible for a lot of deaths as a drug?
销售酒精是合法的 Alcohol's legal to sell.
我们可以一直辩论 And we can argue all day long
烟草会不会致死 酒精会不会致死 Whether tobacco kills and whether alcohol kills,
但是在我头脑中 and there's a clear distinction in my mind
烟草和酒精 between tobacco or alcohol
跟激素 冰毒 可乐是有明显界线的 and steroids and methamphetamines and coke.
谢谢你的分享 别客气 - Thanks for sharing that with us. - All right.
我知道这段时间你很难过 I know how hard it can be and everything.
但这件事很重要 This is important stuff.
如果有人问起 MARK: Anybody who asks me about it-
我会坦白地告诉他们 我会告诉他们原因 I let them know. I tell them why.
告诉他们我用了多少 我会告诉他们一切 I tell them how much I take. I'll tell them anything
他们想问我有关的事 因为我认为 孩子们呢 - they want to ask me about them 'cause I think- - What about the kids?
孩子们不一样 因为 The kids are different because-
有几个孩子在全队人面前问我 a couple kids asked me in front of the whole group
我只有撒谎不承认 and I had to lie about it
因为激素事件无法控制 because this whole steroid thing is just out of hand.
我知道亨利教练没有使用激素 I know coach Henry doesn't take any steroids.
他是100%强壮的 He's just 100% strong.
有人问他有没有用激素 I think somebody asked him if he was on steroids
他说没有 我完全相信他 and he said no. And I completely believe him.
他教育我们激素只是 He just teaches that steroids are basically-
一种用来逃避努力训练的卑劣手段 they're a cheap way out of doing hard work.
我说它们不是给孩子们用的 MARK: I say they're not for kids.
激素不是给孩子们用的 这是浅而易见的 Steroids are not for kids. That's plain and simple.
你必须踏实地达到你的目标 You should achieve things naturally
然后当你长大后 and then maybe you should think about them
或许可以考虑一下它们 when you're an adult.
我不用激素的主要原因是 The main reason why I don't take steroids
他让我觉得我不需要它们 is 'cause he got it into my head that I don't need 'em,
我现在有潜力能让自己 变得像我想要的那样强壮 that I got the potential right now as a teenager to get as strong as I want.
让他们知道我使用激素 对他们有什么好处 MARK: What good would it do them to know that I take steroids?
对他们没有好处 他们会说 It wouldn't do them any good. They'd just be like,
"噢 天哪 他是个骗子" "oh, man, he's a cheater.
你会不会告诉父母你用激素 Would you ever tell our parents that you do it?
嗯 会的 Um, I mean, you know,
如果他们问我 if they asked me.
我只煮了两磅 I only cooked two pounds.
希望够吃 I hope it's enough.
我们一直都有去做礼拜 CHRIS: You know, we went to church all the time.
我在一个很棒的家庭中长大 I grew up in a great family.
我认为 I don't think I could ask
你们是最好的父母 for anybody better to be parents, you know.
我刚去到南加州大学时 And when I went to the U.S.C.
我没有使用任何药品 我没有做任何违规的事 I didn't do any drugs. I didn't do anything.
因为你是个好孩子 嗯… - 'Cause you're a good boy. - Well...
然后我开始尝试激素 And then I got to a point where I actually tried steroids.
我试过康力龙 这是注射剂 I tried Winstrol, which is injections.
你帮自己注射 You injected a needle in yourself?
只是打在肌肉上 MIKE: It's just in the muscle.
是的 因为我已经到了这样的境地 Yeah, 'cause you get to a point where you're like,
"我变样了 我以前不是这样" "I'm getting out of shape. I don't feel like I used to. "
我停止这样做的原因是 The reason I stopped doing it was
我认为这是不道德的 because I thought it was immoral.
我认为这是错的 我在想 I thought it was so wrong and like,
"如果我的父母知道了会怎么样" "what if my parents found out I did this?"
我觉得很难接受 I think it's really hard to hear
你尝试过激素这件事 但是 你难以接受 - that you tried 'em and everything, but- - For you.
而我不会 It's not hard for me.
我的意思是很难接受 What I'm saying is that it's hard to hear.
Mark呢 我的意思是 And what about mark? I mean,
你怎么能保持强壮却不发胖呢 how come you're staying big but you're not getting fat?
你只是 我变胖了 - You're just- - I'm getting fatter.
不会 只是脸变圆了 No, but your face is rounder.
我的脂肪变多了 他大概 - I put on body fat. - MIKE: He's about-
你大概比正常情况下 高了7%或8% 是吧 You're about 7% or 8% higher than what you normally are, wouldn't you say?
我不知道 我也不在乎 I have no idea. I don't really care either.
他已经结婚了 他不在乎 CHRIS: He's already married. He doesn't care.
只有臭臭没出声 ROSEMARY: Except Smelly's not saying anything.
别让你哥哥抢了你的话 Don't let your brothers overrun your conversation.
当你被逮到时 SHELDON: When you get caught with something
说真话是能让你摆脱困境 I think the truth is always the fastest way
的最快方法 out of the situation,
却不总是最好的方法 but it's not always the best way out.
她在担心 她是个好母亲 You know, she's concerned. She's being a mom
她只是想弄明白 and she's just trying to leave it open
我可以说"是的 你知道吗我有用它们 where I could say, "Yeah, you know what? I do 'em.
原因是这样" 我想 这就是她想要的 And this is why. " I think that's what she's looking for.
但是她还是没有直接问我 But she's still never directly asked me.
在那之前我什么也不会说 So until that time comes I ain't sayin' nothin'.
人人都有撒谎的倾向 SHELDON: People have a tendency to cheat at everything.
税也是一样 And that happens with taxes too,
就跟激素或其它事一样 just like it could with steroids or any other thing.
这是人类的天性 这是人类罪恶的天性 It's human nature. It's the sinful nature of men.
我爸爸说服疯狗和他的妻子 CHRIS: My dad convinced mad dog and his wife
在波启普夕定居用职权 To settle down in Poughkeepsie.
他现在在为以前跟他 一起摔跤的人理税 And he's been doing income taxes for the same guys he used to wrestle with.
我保留了一些东西 不多 I keep a couple things around, not too much.
大约翰 约翰总是很真实 Big john. John always keeps it real.
这上面写着"给疯狗 谢谢了" This just says "To Mad Dog. Thanks for everything. "
跟他想过的生活不一样 CHRIS: Not exactly how he thought his life would turn out.
我起床 去办公室 MIKE: I get up, I go to the office,
帮他们赚钱 也帮自己赚钱 you know, I make money for them, I make money for me.
我有一个很好的妻子 我有一个很好的家庭 I got a great wife. I got a great family.
但是我想当名出色的摔跤手 But I wanted to be a famous wrestler
我想过这样的生活 and, you know, I wanted to live the life.
我想去旅行 认识不同的人 I wanted to be on the road, travel, meeting people,
赚钱 享受生活 Making money, having fun-
好好生活 you know, living the life.
他会突然崩溃 哭泣 SHELDON: He'll break down and he'll be crying
他会说 "爸爸 and he'll say, like, "dad, the biggest fear
我这辈子最怕的就是当无名小卒 I ever had in my life was being average Joe.
我已经36岁了却仍然默默无闻" And I'm 36 years old and that's all I can see for myself. "
你现在想做什么 CHRIS: What do you want to do now?
你能做到什么 Where do you see yourself going?
我的意思是 当前是目标是离开波启普夕 I mean, you know, the immediate goal was to get out of Poughkeepsie,
搬去加利福尼亚 建立自己的威信 move to California, establish my name
最终创办自己的事业 and then start my own business eventually.
他看起来好像有很大进步 是吗 Seemed like he was making good progress, okay?
但其实他没有 But he wasn't making any progress.
不久前的某天晚上我告诉他说 I told him the other night, I said,
"你可能可以骗倒其他人 "you might be fooling everybody else,
但你骗不了我 but you're not fooling me.
你不是东西 你还有在用激素" You're full of shit. You're still on stuff. "
你认为他为什么不告诉我们 Why do you think he would tell us about it?
他都告诉我了 他说他还在用 He tells me everything else, you know, that he's doing.
我想他有点尴尬 I think he's partially embarrassed
我认为他 and I think he's-
这也是他的成瘾行为之一 that's part of addictive behavior.
他是这样想的"只要我离开这里 搬到加利福尼亚 His thing is this- "I'm gonna be fine as soon as I'm out of here.
一切都会好起来的 我的生活会很完美" I'm gonna go live in California. My life is gonna be perfect. "
但是如果他真的这样做 不 他不会过得好的 But if he really believes that- no, he's not gonna be fine at all.
知道我为谁感到难过吗 我为楠丁感到难过 You know who I feel bad for? I feel bad for Nadine.
一个结了婚的年轻女人 'Cause here's a young girl who's married,
把她的梦想希望和人生 whose hopes and dreams and life
都交给了他 而他自己却是一团糟 is in him, and he's a screw-up.
如果他用药过量自杀了 And if he ends up overdosing and killing himself
或者破产了 她也会跟着遭殃 or if he ends up on the rocks, he's taking her with him.
我不会带着希望和梦想离开 I'm not moving out there with the hopes and dreams of-
我不会守株待兔的 I'm not gonna wait tables and hope I'm gonna be an actor.
我已经当了15年摔跤手了 I already did that- 15 years of wrestling.
你觉得有人会注意到你吗 You think you'll get noticed?
我搬走不是因为想被注意到 I'm not moving out to get noticed,
但是在波启普夕 你永远不可能被注意到 but you're never gonna get noticed in Poughkeepsie.
走在好莱坞的街道上 可能有星探看到你 说 In Hollywood you're walking down the street, somebody sees you-
"嗨 有时间吗" 这是有可能的 "hey, you got a minute?" you just never know.
你觉得有什么方法 You don't think there's any way
可以让他回心转意吗 he can get past it?
除非奇迹出现 A miracle.
我是说真的 I'm serious.
我想某天他们会发现他死了 I think they're gonna find him dead someday.
我以为养大孩子们 很简单 I thought bringing up boys- this is easy.
至少我没有这样的女儿 比如 At least I don't have a daughter who's, like,
带她去打保龄球 got her face in the bowl throwing up.
作为一个母亲 You know, did I- did I do something
我有没有做过一些 as a mother
让你觉得 To make you feel,
不称职的事 like, not good enough?
当迈克上大学时 他打电话给你的爸爸 When Mike went off to college and he calls your father up
说:"我能试试激素吗" and says, "can I try steroids?"
"不 我们不会给你钱去试这个的" "No, you're not getting money to try steroids. "
我们都认为这样做很疯狂 所以 You know, we both thought that was a crazy thing, so-
但是你知不知道他 最终是从哪里拿到它们的 but do you know where he ended up getting 'em from?
不 但是我不是 他是从 你的兄弟约翰那拿到的 - No, but I wasn't gonna- - He got 'em from your brother John.
天哪 No-
所以那是 我是说 这就好像 So that's- I mean, it's something that's like,
在我们家庭里 you know, in our family.
我是说 这就好像 I mean, it's something that, like-
克里斯这些话比杀了我还难受 Chris, you're already killing me with this as it is.
我只是说 更糟了 - Well, I'm telling- - It just gets worse.
我只是告诉你事实 I'm just telling you the truth.
我想告诉你作为一个母亲 我的感觉是什么 I'm just trying to tell you how I feel as a mother.
我彻底崩溃了 I am broken to my soul.
我的心都碎了 My heart is broken.
当你们看着霍肯巨人长大时 When you were growing up Hulk Hogan-
听听他说了什么 "吃维生素 look what he's saying. "take your vitamins,
祷告" 然后呢 say your prayers-" and what?
"相信自己" 对了 但这不是真的 - "believe in yourself. " - Yeah, but it's not true.
所以我开始照他说的做 是"使用激素"才对吧 - So I started working out. - "Take your steroids," okay?
我不知道他有没有祷告过 I don't know if he ever prays or not.
他的一生都没有提到过神 对吧 Never heard him talk about god in his whole life, okay?
过了这么久 Now that time has gone by,
我开始在想 "这家伙是不是骗子" I'm like, "is this guy a fraud?"
此后我认为每个人都要 And that's where I think that everybody needs
开始承认大力水手说的 to begin to accept- "I am who I am,"
"我就是我" said Popeye the sailor man.
连他也是个骗子 He even was a gyp.
他必须吃菠菜 他必须吃菠菜 - He had to take spinach. - He had to take spinach.
Everybody needs something. I mean, what's up with that?
如果我现在就承认我是谁 是不是就等于放弃了呢 If I just accept who I am right now, isn't that just giving up?
不 作为人 承认你是谁 No, accept who you are as a person.
然后你的身体是另外一码事 Then your body image is something different.
一个胖子也曾尝试了各种 Do you think a fat person hasn't tried everything
合法途径来减肥 但是我绝不会越轨的 that's legal? But I'm not gonna cross the line.
关于怎样生活圣经上说得很清楚 The Bible lays everything out about how to live your life.
但圣经不是万能的 它是 - But the bible can't solve all your problems. - It can.
我不能通过祷告变成阿诺史瓦辛格 这是不可能的 I can't pray to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's not gonna happen.
不能 你不能通过祷告 变得像阿诺史瓦辛格一样 No, you can't pray to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger,
但是使用大量激素 but neither can you take enough steroids
和人生长激素也不可能变得像他一样 or enough human growth hormone to look like him either.
但是你可以变得尽可能的像他 不会的 - But you can get as close as you can. - It's not gonna happen.
你受造奇妙可畏 You're fearfully and wonderfully made.
你身体的每一个肌腱 每一块肌肉 每一根纤维 Every sinew in your body, every muscle, every fiber
都是上帝亲手做的 你正是他 was made by god. And you're exactly
所想要的样子 who he intended you to be.
那又如何 你可能拥有 And so what? To somebody with a six-pack of abs.
一个有六块腹肌的人所没有的 Maybe they don't have what you have.
我的意思是 你为什么不这么想呢 I mean, you know, why don't you ever think that way too?
我不明白为什么我的孩子们 What I don't get is why did our boys
都认为自己不够好 Not feel that they were good enough?
我的父亲和祖父 My father or my grandfather
从来都不担心 never worried about
他们是否有六块腹肌 whether they had a six-pack of abdominals
或者他们的体脂肪有多少 or what percentage of body fat they had.
所以为什么在21世纪的今天 So why is it now in the 21st century
人们对体形的关注 that there's this huge preoccupation
比以前多很多 with body image that just didn't exist before?
哈里逊蒲柏博士 是个精神病专家 CHRIS: Dr. Harrison pope is a psychiatrist
他在研究为什么美国男人 对他们的身体越来越着迷 who studies why American men are becoming more obsessed with their bodies.
这是特种部队兵人 So here we have G.I. Joe
在19世纪60年代 from the 1960s.
越战期间第一次出现时的样子 This is when he first came out at the time of the Vietnam war.
他是个看起来很标准的人 He's a perfectly normal-looking dude.
这是大约10年后的兵人 Here is G.I. Joe from about 10 years later,
70年代中期 他有腹肌了 - from the mid-1970s. - He's got abs now.
很明显地他有去健身 He's clearly been putting in some time in the gym.
这是90年代的兵人 噢 天哪 - And then here is G.I. Joe from the 1990s. - Oh, jeez.
二头肌大约有16寸（大臂维度40厘米） The bicep is up to 16" or so,
有完整的六块腹肌 full six-pack of abs,
身体侧面还有看得见的锯肌 even got serratus muscles visible on the side.
人形公仔的演变 This evolution in the action figures
正说明了 is a testimony
我们在美国看到的 to this increased preoccupation with body image
对体形日渐增加的关注现象 that we've been seeing in the United States.
可笑的是 我们的文化 And it's funny that in our culture
仍然试图 用某些方法 we still tend to romanticize
把激素传奇化 steroids to a certain way-
有一个SUV广告是这样说的 That you'll see an ad for an S.U.V. that says,
"这是使用激素后的轿车" "this is our sedan on steroids. "
但没有一个SUV广告这样说 But you wouldn't see an ad for an S.U.V. saying,
"这是使用可卡因后的轿车" "this is our sedan on cocaine. "
噢 这看起来像使用了 激素的高尔夫车 REPORTER: Well, it's sort of like a golf cart on steroids.
这看起来像用了激素的易烤炉 It looked like an easy-bake oven on steroids.
经济状况好像是用了激素 It's sort of the economy on steroids.
把它当成用了激素的阿波罗 Think of it as Apollo on steroids.
今年急流好像用了激素 This year the jet stream has really been on steroids.
科索沃就是用了激素的波斯尼亚 Kosovo would be Bosnia on steroids.
增加更多的教练机和顾问 MAN: Adding more U.S. trainers and advisors,
最终导致使用激素政策的出台 essentially putting the current strategy on steroids.
我们每天都被 We are besieged every day
电视电影卡通杂志里的 with images of muscular male bodies on T.V.,
和贴在柜台百货公司 in the movies, in cartoons, on magazines
里的肌肉男包围 at the checkout counter in the department store,
这些都仿佛在告诉我们 all of which seem to give this message
一个真男人是高大的强壮的 that a real man is big and muscular.
对了 就是这样 There you go. Just like that.
好极了 秀一下你的腹肌 克里斯蒂安 就是这样 Good. Give me some good abs, Christian. That's it.
我11岁时就看了"王者之剑" I saw "Conan the Barbarian" when I was 11.
那时我在想 "这就是我想做的" And at that moment I said, "that's exactly what I want to do. "
所以我开始学习阿诺和他的成就 And I started to study Arnold and his achievements.
我14岁时就开始参加举重训练 So I started training with weights when I was 14.
16岁时就开始使用激素 I started taking steroids when I was 16.
你在帮某种营养品做广告 So you're advertising a supplement.
像我一样的人看到杂志 So a guy like me goes and looks in the magazine
我看到克里斯蒂安 博维 然后说"天那 and I see Christian Boeving and I'm like, "wow, man,
我想看起来跟他一样" 所以我就服用 I wanna look like that guy. " so I go and take
Hydroxycut或其它营养品 Hydroxycut or some supplement
因为我以为这样就会跟你一样 because I think that I'm gonna look like you.
但是我不知道你有用激素 But what I don't know is that you were taking steroids.
你觉得有什么不妥吗 Do you have any problem with that?
朋友 这是把双刃剑 That's a double-edged sword, my friend.
怎么说呢 How to answer this?
如果有人看到我拍的广告 Somebody looks at an ad with me in it
然后说"克里斯蒂安 博维有用Hydroxycut" and says, "Christian Boeving takes Hydroxycut,"
这我以前和现在都有在用 Which I did and I do.
但这并不意味着我没用其它东西 That doesn't necessarily mean that I don't take something else.
如果他们选择相信 If they choose to believe
我只使用这种东西就可以变成这样 that that's the only thing I'm taking to look like that,
那么就是了 他们应该学聪明点 then so be it. They should be smarter than that.
这是不是误导 可能有一点吧 Is it misleading? Possibly a little bit, yeah.
但这是不是谎言 肯定不是 But is it a lie? Absolutely not.
我不是开玩笑 我敢肯定 I'd say probably 80% to 90%- I'm not kidding you-
在杂志上看到的东西 有百分之八九十 of all the stuff I see in magazines
都是在胡说 这些都很荒谬 is complete hogwash. It's ridiculous to me.
我不明白为什么广告有这种 I don't understand why there's this need in advertising
把事物玩弄于股掌之中的需要 To really manipulate things-
瘦得皮包骨的模特们 The bone-thin fashion models
她们饮食机能失调 that got all kinds of eating disorders,
而男人却刚好相反 and with men it's the opposite.
他们有阿多尼斯的体形 They get the Adonis complex.
然后麻烦就来了 And then there's all kinds of trouble ahead
因为孩子们会像我们小时候一样 'cause you have all these kids who are like you and me when we were young
看到这些人 心想他们太完美了 looking at all these people and they're perfect.
没有能像他们看到的人 And how does that make somebody feel who's not as perfect
一样完美感觉如何不好 as the people they're seeing? Not very good.
所以我试过这种东西 So this stuff I've tried-
含糖的 loaded with sugar.
我试过这种 我试过这种 I've tried this. I've tried this.
当然也试过这种 Of course I've tried this.
我想大家都试过生肌奶了吧 Everybody I think's tried muscle milk.
我试过这种 我试过这种 I've tried this. I've tried this.
所有这些饮料我都试过 I've tried all these drinks.
如果Speed Stack(功能饮料)不够 那就试试加强型的 If speed stack weren't enough, you have extreme speed stack.
营养品业很不规范 REHAN JALALI: The supplement industry is very unregulated.
生产一种新的营养品 You don't have to have F.D.A. approval
不用获得FDA批准 To come out with a dietary supplement.
这让人有机可乘 That gives people room to come out
生产一些质量不过关的产品 with some lower-quality products.
这种上面印着 "新的合法配方" This product says "new legal formula" on it.
我不知道旧配方里面有什么 I don't know what the old formula really had in it.
伯利兹满藤蔓 "Belizean Man Vine Extract. "
我可不想尝试这个 I don't want any part of that.
"最佳使用日期见罐底" "Best if used by date and lot number on bottom of can. "
是的 Yeah.
我过去常常认为保健品工业 CHRIS: I always thought the health industry
是很"保健"的 was about, you know, health.
为什么现在看起来 我们好像回到拓荒前的西部 Why does it feel like we're back in the wild west?
这不仅可以用来清洁牙齿 还可以用来卷头发 It'll clean your teeth and curl your hair!
这是西部最好的 The best in the west.
没有这瓶东西 等于要了我的命 I wouldn't be dead without a bottle.
我们都应该感谢来自 犹他州的奥林哈奇参议员 CHRIS: Well, we can all thank the senator from Utah, Orrin Hatch.
他看起来气色多好 Look how good he looks.
我想买他这种牌子的 I want to get his brand is what I want to do.
看吧 保健品工业 在犹他可是大买卖 CHRIS: See, the health industry is big business in Utah.
他们占全美国 膳食补充品的四分之一 They make almost a quarter of all the dietary supplements in America.
而膳食补充品是240亿美元的工业 And supplements are a $24-billion industry.
算一下就知道了 So you do the math.
生产营养品以前 跟生产处方药一样 Making supplements used to be like making prescription drugs.
产品投放到市场之前 You had to prove your product was safe and effective
必须要证明它是安全有效的 但是犹他的营养品牛仔们 before you could sell it. Well, the supplement cowboys in Utah
觉得这样很麻烦 thought that was a real hassle.
所以他们请求亲爱的 参议员改变这个规则 So they asked their favorite senator to change the rules around.
因此现在根本不用 证明产品是安全的 And now you don't have to prove your product is safe at all.
如果要让它们撤出市场 And the F.D.A. has to prove that it's not safe
FDA反而要去证明 它们是不安全的 If they want to take it off the market.
这种红色液体是什么 What is this red goop?
这是加拿大的红线 This is the Canadian version of redline.
我们必须把在加拿大 不合法的原料提取出来 We had to take out some of the ingredients that aren't legal in Canada.
由于这种违规 保健品工业迅速发展 CHRIS: Thanks to this deregulation, the supplement industry exploded
很多感兴趣的人都加入到这个行列 And all sorts of new and interesting people got in on the action.
我们一直合作愉快 不管是卖药品 We were always a good team, whether we were selling drugs
还是像现在一样卖保健品 or whether we were selling a supplement like we are now.
"哲基尔&海德"营养品 能唤醒潜在的你 "Jekyll & Hyde" supplements, formulated to awaken your other side.
服用这个你就能突然变成怪物 巨人 Take this and all of a sudden you become the freak, the monster.
人人都想变成巨人 Everybody wants to become a monster.
连瓦伦蒂诺都能做营养品 我敢打赌谁都可以做 CHRIS: If Valentino can make a supplement I bet anyone can do it.
你好 Hola.
你需要多少人 两个人 - How many guys you need? - I need two guys.
我们在做膳食补充品 - We're making dietary supplements. - Uh-huh.
我需要帮手来做些事 很简单的 And I just need a hand with a couple things. It'd be really easy.
你们要做的是把这些白色粉 All I need you guys to do is take the white-
放在里面 对了 - MAN: Put inside? - CHRIS: Boom.
首先买一袋很受欢迎的配料 CHRIS: First you buy a bunch of really popular ingredients.
把戏是我每个只加 But the trick is I'm just gonna use
一小部分 噢 - a tiny amount of each one. - Oof.
这就是我们营养品工业所说的 "特效药" It's what we like to call in the supplement biz "pixie dusting. "
看吧 我能把秘密配方隐藏起来 See, I can hide my secret formula
通过使用"特殊配方"这个词 behind the term "proprietary blend"
不让人知道 and not reveal that it's pretty much
它其实只是一粒米粉片 just a pillful of rice flour.
这是赚大钱的好方法 It's a good way to make a lot of money.
别把喷嚏打到营养品里 Don't sneeze in the supplements here.
但是因为表中的名贵配料 CHRIS: But with all those expensive ingredients on the label
我们能把这瓶值1·4美元的东西 I can make this bottle for about a buck 40
卖到60美元 and sell it for $60.
谢了 奥林 Thanks, Orrin.
我们开始做保健品生意了 We're in the supplement business now.
最可怕的是我都是 照书上所写的去做 CHRIS: The scary part is that everything I just did is by the book-
除了雇那些非法移民的劳工 Well, except for the illegal-immigrant day laborers.
但是 也没有人来规范他们 But hey, nobody's regulating them either.
现在我只需要 一个误导人的广告了 Now I just need a misleading advertisement.
放上杂志前你有没有 大幅修改这些照片 Do you airbrush these guys a lot when you put them in magazines?
肯定有 有很多技巧和工具 Definitely. There's all kinds of techniques and tools
可以用来修改图片 you can use to completely manipulate the body.
真的吗 事实上有些 "使用前"和"使用后"的照片 - Really? - In fact, some of the "before" and "after" pictures-
能够在同一天拍摄 They could be done on the same day.
但是你没有在同一天拍吧 有吗 You haven't shot them in the same day, though, have you?
我有 真的 噢 你有 - I have, actually. - Oh, you have?
真的 他们是怎么 - Yeah. - What do they do-?
像这种做法我还是把嘴闭上的好 Is this the self-editing part? I should keep my mouth shut?
我能随便找个人拍张照片 I could take anybody and take a picture of them,
让他们看起来很糟糕… make them look their worst...
想些可怕的事 表情沮丧 think horrible thoughts, depression.
…然后通过各种方法 ...and then through all kinds of ways
让他们看起来状态最好 make them look their best.
别把我的乳头也刮掉 Just don't cut my nipple off.
啊 Agh!
好的 让我看看 行 All right. Let me see here. Good.
一 二 三 One, two, three.
好的 Good.
如果想让对比更明显 We can take it a step further if we want
还可以进一步加工 in the befores and the afters.
首先 你可以拿一个人的照片 Basically, you can take somebody
让他看起来胖一点或矮一点 and make them a little fatter or shorter.
人们会相信这些吗 Are people falling for this?
他们一直都相信 They fall for it all the time.
我也无法理解 And it's beyond what I can understand
因为我觉得这很愚蠢 because it looks so silly to me,
但我是稍微知道点内幕的人 but of course I'm somebody who's had sort of an inside,
私下知道了实际情况 backstage pass to what's really occurred,
我还助纣为虐 and I've been part of some of these scams that have played out.
那么如果不规范的膳食添加品 CHRIS: So if unregulated dietary supplements
像激素一样在市场上泛滥 are marketed like steroids
并由使用激素的人来销售 and sold by people who are on steroids,
难怪有那么多人使用激素了 is it any wonder that so many people are just taking the real thing?
我的意思是 它们并不难获得 I mean, it's not like they're hard to get.
你可以越过边界 在墨西哥宠物商店买 You can cross the border and buy them from a pet store in Mexico.
雄性激素 15美元 MAN: Testosterona, $15.
是买给狗的吧 But it's for your dog, right?
噢 是给我的狗的 我忘了 Oh, it's for my dog. Yeah, I forgot.
是的 我的狗得了贫血病 Yeah yeah, my dog's anemic.
你也可以像疯狗一样上网购买 CHRIS: Or you can buy them on the internet like Mad Dog.
如果上网购买250美元 就可以买一罐这种鬼东西 If you order online you can get the shit for $250 a kit
而在黑市上是500或600美元一罐 Instead of paying somebody on the black market $500 or $600 for a kit.
如果有钱还可以 通过合法途径获得 CHRIS: Or, if you have enough money, you can get it legally.
这是一年一度的抗衰老药物展 This is the annual convention for the anti-aging medicine-
这里堆满了各种被禁的兴奋剂 Booth after booth of all the taboo performance-enhancing drugs.
羟甲雄烷吡唑 那是本约翰逊用的 Stanozolol- hey, that's what Ben Johnson used.
诺龙 肖恩梅里曼不是因此被逮到吗 Nandrolone- isn't that what Shawne Merriman got caught with?
噢 还有人生长激素 Oh, and human growth hormone-
据说马里恩琼斯用过这个 They say Marion Jones was taking that.
棒球和其它运动项目上 Human growth hormone usage
人生长激素被猖狂地使用 has been rampant in baseball and other sports.
运动员之所以使用 人生长激素是因为它 CHRIS: Athletes use H.G.H. because it works
像合成代谢类固醇 而且更绝的是 A lot like anabolic steroids. And the best part is,
没法被检测出来 你能这样获得它 there's no way to test for it. Here's how you get it.
首先去找你的抗衰老医生 First you go to your anti-aging doctor.
但这医生可能不是内科医生 Now the doctor might not be a medical doctor.
就像我的案例 他是个指压治疗师 Like in my case- he's a chiropractor.
指压治疗师不能开处方 And chiropractors can't prescribe drugs,
但是没关系 他只需让 but that's okay. He just has another doctor
另外一个医生 帮他开处方 write the prescriptions for him.
但是要注意 开荷尔蒙来抗衰老 But be careful- prescribing hormones for anti-aging
可是重罪 所以你不能 直接告诉你的抗衰老医生 is a felony. So you can't exactly tell your anti-aging doctor
你想抗衰老 that you're interested in anti-aging.
但是别担心 Not to worry, though- just use the words
用"激素缺乏症"来替代 "hormone deficiency" instead.
医生会先做一个身体检查 First thing, doc will want to do a little physical.
啊 BOTH: Aagh.
有没有人想通过你获得激素 Do you have people come to you to try to get steroids?
绝对有 但是我们不能 Absolutely. But prescribing steroids-
把激素开在药方上 根本没办法 That's not what we do, not at all.
嗯 但你能用 Mm-hmm. But it kind of is what you do
不同的方法 in a way, in a different way.
下一步要做尿检 CHRIS: Next you're gonna get a urine test
检查24小时内的荷尔蒙水平 to check your hormone levels for 24 hours.
这个测试是回家做的 童子军的荣誉 That's a take-home test- you know, scout's honor.
把测试送过去 一星期后就可以拿报告了 Send in the test and a week later go get your results.
这是你的报告结果 DOCTOR: We got your labs back here-
尿液中的生长激素量 Urinary growth hormone output.
还有件事 FDA从来没有 CHRIS: But here's the thing- since the F.D.A.
明确什么是"激素缺乏症" has never defined what a hormone deficiency really is,
医生几乎可以随心所欲 地解释报告结果 Well, doc can pretty much interpret the results however he wants.
你的激素水平有点低 而且还在在下降 You're a little bit low, coming down.
要把它们提高到最佳水平 I'm gonna bring those levels up to optimal.
或许这很奇怪 CHRIS: Now it may seem strange
在美国最具争议的药品 that the most controversial drugs in America
可以因为在家里做的测试 而开在处方里 are being prescribed using take-home tests,
我的处方是一个 从没见过的医生开的 and in my case by a doctor I never met,
但是 至少我没有违反法律 but hey, at least I'm not the one breaking the law.
你为什么不通过 合法途径来拿到它 Why don't you just get it legally?
嗯 我觉得现在这种方法挺好的 Um, I like getting it the way I get it.
便宜而且 It's cheap and I can get it
随时都可以拿到 anytime I want.
我不认为有什么原因让我 And I don't think there's any real reason for me to-
我的意思是 我不想去看医生 I mean, I don't want to go to a doctor.
那真是自找苦吃 That's a pain in the ass.
你不担心会被逮到 You ever worry about getting arrested
或者有警察追捕你之类的吗 or cops coming after you or anything like that?
我不是很关心这个 I'm not all that concerned about it.
你能说服自己做任何事 You can justify anything to yourself.
而一旦被说服了 And once you've justified it to yourself
你会认为这样做很酷 你会认为这样做是可以的 then you just think it's cool. You think it's okay.
所以我认为这样做没问题 So in my mind it's okay.
我问大家一个问题 比如说 I pose the question to people, say,
"嗨 如果必须使用 "hey, if you had to take a drug
一种有副作用 大家都知道的副作用 with the side effects- known side effects
也有合成代谢固醇的未知效果的药 and the unknown effects of the anabolic steroids
才能保持你现在的这份工作 To keep your job right now
养家糊口 你愿意这样做吗" and support your family, would you do it?"
只要使用恰当的药物 Maintaining an erection is very easy to do
要维持勃起很简单 with the appropriate chemical assistance.
把液态伟哥注射进阴茎 Liquid Viagra injected into the penis.
你把这个打到阴茎里 You inject this in your penis?
是的 Yep.
痛吗 嗯 不是很痛 - Does it hurt? - Um, not really.
使用兴奋剂的 CHRIS: It's not just athletes and porn stars
不仅仅是运动员和三级片明星 Taking performance-enhancing drugs.
几乎是全民参与 Just about everybody's in on the action.
最常见的是我们所说的行动药丸 Probably the most common thing is what we call go-pills.
可能有很多种 There's probably different kinds,
但是dextramphetamine是最主要的 but dextramphetamine is the big one.
效果惊人 尤其是长时间执行任务 They work wonders, they really do, especially if you've been
注意力很难保持集中时 out there a long time and it's hard to stay focused.
你呢 What about you?
是啊 它们能让人马上充满活力 Yeah, they'll spin you right up.
家长们可能没有注意到 Many parents may not be aware that their children
他们的孩子在使用 一种叫复合苯丙胺盐的药 are taking a drug by the name of Adderall
来提高他们的考试成绩 to improve their academic performance.
复合苯丙胺盐是一种特效兴奋剂 Adderall is a powerful stimulant
很像可卡因 very much like cocaine
和脱氧麻黄碱 or methamphetamine.
它不仅仅用于病人 It's not just for people who have problems.
大家都觉得这样做一点都没错 我在学校里不时使用复合苯丙胺盐 People who think completely fine- I've taken Adderall
然后写论文 in college here and there to write a paper.
然后说"这样写论文很有趣" And I said, "this is a fun way to write a paper. "
考试成绩提高了 做作业 Your test scores go up and you're
的速度增快了 因此能做更多的事 doing homework faster, so you can do more work.
当我去上学时 遇到朋友们 我应该告诉他们吗 All I did when I went to class- my friends, should I talk to them?
不 继续下去 我一直都是这样 Nope, hold on. And I'd be doing all my work.
每一种表演 CHRIS: And for every performance
都有方法来提高 there's a way to enhance it.
你服用β受体阻滞药来使自己镇定 So you take beta-blockers to calm you down?
其实它没有让我镇定 It actually doesn't calm me down.
它能防止我神经紧张 It prevents me from getting nervous.
就是这样 我上大学时 - Here we go. - WOMAN: I was in college
我非常非常怯场 and I was having really really bad problems with performance anxiety
这一开始对我造成了很大的困扰 and it was actually making me question what I was doing in the first place.
有个朋友给了我β受体阻滞药 它太不可思议了 A friend gave me beta-blockers and I just couldn't believe it.
我觉得自己能在场上尽情地演奏 I felt like I could get up there and do exactly what I wanted to do
不必为我的身体反应所阻碍 and I wasn't hindered by what my body was reacting to.
阻止肾上腺素的分泌 Blocking that adrenaline goes a long way
对提高表演情况大有帮助 towards enhancing performance.
所以飞行员 色情片明星 CHRIS: So it's okay to enhance your performance
音乐家和学生 if you're a pilot, a porn star,
都可以使用兴奋剂 a musician or a student,
但如果是一个职业棒球手 but if your job is to play professional baseball,
这样做就是个骗子了 well, somehow that makes you a cheater.
你觉得这是作弊吗 CHRIS: Do you feel it's cheating?
不是 噢 不 当然不是 Not at all. Oh, no, certainly not.
在音乐上没有竞争 MAN: There is no competition in music.
这跟体育完全不一样 You know, this is completely unlike sports.
如果是在试听的情况下呢 What about in an audition situation?
有没有竞争 是的 有 - Is there competition there? - Yeah, there is.
但是有很多人服用它们 And, you know, a lot of people take 'em
我不觉得有什么不妥 and I don't see that there's a problem with it.
这样做 要不要先过了心里的道德关 Was there any sort of moral bridge to cross when you did it?
我们做的可是色情行业 Well, we're in the porn business.
这里可没有什么道德可言 There's not a whole lot of morals to begin with.
安非他明 棒球运动员也使用这种药 Amphetamines in baseball- they actually take the same pill
作为行动药丸 是的 我听说过了 - As a go-pill. - Yeah, I've heard that.
在俱乐部它们被称作绿丸 In the clubhouse they're called greenies.
有人说它们比 And some in the game say they could be
比激素更普遍 more common than steroids.
赛场上应该公平竞争 In sports you should play fair.
战场上根本不可能做到公平 In war you shouldn't play fair at all.
我看到有一队人在路上 PILOT: I've got some men on a road
好像有架大炮对准了我们 And it looks like a piece of artillery firing at us.
我们要正当防卫了 I am rolling in in self-defense.
嗖 Shaq!
2002年的阿富汗战争 CHRIS: In 2002 over Afghanistan
两个美国飞行员服用了行动药丸后 two American pilots on go-pills
对一队加拿大盟军开炮 bombed a group of friendly Canadians.
我希望这样做没错 PILOT #2: I hope that was the right thing to do.
但愿如此 PILOT #1: ME too.
四个加拿大士兵被炸死 REPORTER: Four Canadian soldiers were killed.
医生们说飞行员瞬间判断要开火 Doctors say the pilots' snap judgment to open fire
是典型的嗑药表现 Is typical of someone on speed.
飞行员被告过失杀人 CHRIS: The pilots were charged with manslaughter,
但是他们把责任推给行动药丸 But they blamed their go-pills
最终控告不成立 and the charges were dropped.
其它国家都 No other country in the world
不允许空军使用安非他明 allows amphetamines in their Air Force,
但在美国我们却要求他们使用 But in America we require it.
美国是一个充满竞争的地方 TUTOR: You know, America is a very competitive place
人们真的会用尽各种方法 and people will take advantage of really anything they can
在竞争中取胜 in order to help themselves in that struggle.
我不想说 我现在用的 I hate to say it, the amount of beta-blockers
那些β受体阻滞药连加州的交通 that they've got me on right now- California traffic
也没有让我觉得烦躁 真的吗 - doesn't bother me anymore. - Really?
很容易从医生那拿到这种药 STUDENT: It's too easy to get it from a doctor.
只需要说"我上课时精神无法集中" You say, "I can't focus in class"
医生自然就会给你开这种药 And the doctor prescribes it automatically.
你是通过医生拿到 复合苯丙胺盐的吗 And when you got Adderall you just went to the doctor?
不 学校里到处都有 No, it's just passed around at school.
学校里到处都有 到处都有 - It's passed around at school? - Passed around at school.
打开电视 You turn on your T.V.
我们在推销药品 对吧 And we push drugs, right?
头痛用这个 If you have a headache- use this.
侧体痛 用那个 If you have a pain in your side- use that.
如果睡不着 用这个 If you want to go to sleep- use this.
想醒来用那个 If you want to wake up- use that.
我们是世界上唯一一个 We are the only country in the world
允许这些药品 that permits drugs of that kind
直接对消费者打广告的国家 to be advertised directly to the consumer.
美国制药工业 CHRIS: The American pharmaceutical industry
每年花了50亿美元来打广告 spends almost $5 billion a year on advertising.
而我们却花了2500亿来买他们的药品 And we in turn spend $250 billion on their drugs.
这迄今为止是世界上最多的 That's more than any other country by far.
我们是世界上最不健康的民族吗 Are we the most unhealthy people in the world
还是我们只是看太多电视广告了 Or do we just watch too much T.V.?
人人都有使用药品 那么为什么我使用药品 Everybody's on a drug. So why because I'm on a drug
就会被指指点点呢 does everybody have to point a finger at me?
我为什么就成了坏人了 因为你使用激素 - Why am I the bad guy? - 'Cause you're on steroids.
激素是坏东西 And steroids are bad.
孩子们需要有好的榜样 To help children make right choices
来引导他们做出正确的选择 they need good examples.
运动员在我们的社会中 扮演着非常重要的角色 Athletics play such an important role in our society,
但不幸的是 一些职业运动员 but unfortunately, some in professional sports
却没有树立好榜样 are not setting much of an example.
乔治 布什当总统以前 CHRIS: Long before George Bush was the President
曾经拥有Texas Rangers 这支职业棒球联盟队 he was the owner of the Texas Rangers, a major league baseball team
何塞坎塞科也是其中一员 With none other than Jose Canseco on the roster.
你觉得教练 SENATOR WAXMAN: Do you think that the team trainers,
经理 总经理 甚至所有者 The managers, the general managers and even the owners
都可能注意到 might have been aware
有运动员使用激素吗 that some players were using steroids?
我认为那毫无疑问 绝对有 No doubt in my mind. Absolutely.
那么总统知不知道 CHRIS: So did the President know
他的运动员有用激素 that his players were on the juice?
过去是允许使用激素的 You've admitted to using steroids in the past.
如果你以前就知道这些 Knowing what you know now about them,
还会用吗 会 绝对会用的 - would you have done it? - Yeah, absolutely.
全国橄榄球联赛 The National Football League has talked more
对激素和人生长激素 检测得很严格 about steroid testing or human growth hormone.
我知道你以前 And I know back in your day
承认过有使用激素 you've admitted that you did that.
你仍然坚持你的看法吗 Your stand on that right now?
我认为应该进行激素检测 I think it's good to do doping tests
关键是要找到一种 and the trick obviously to find a way
真正有效的检测方法 of really doing true testing.
我们应该对这种在体育运动中 I think that we have to do something
使用激素的现象做些什么 about the drug use in sports.
我认为这确实误导了孩子们 And I think it does send the wrong message to our children.
阿诺想镇压激素的使用 CHRIS: So Arnold wants to crack down on steroids,
但每年他都赞助他的健美秀 but every year he sponsors his own bodybuilding show,
阿诺健美大赛 The Arnold Classic.
他们根本不进行药检 And they don't drug-test at all.
这些人的体形真是太不可思议了 Isn't it unbelievable, the shape these guys are in,
他们那么辛苦 那么努力 I mean, how ripped they are, how bid they are,
付出那么多 向我们展示这一切 how cut they are, their posing routine and everything?
我为他们感到自豪 这真是太棒了 I'm so proud of them. I tell you, it is really amazing.
今年史瓦辛格州长 CHRIS: This year Governor Schwarzenegger
亲手把奖杯颁给维克多马丁尼兹 handed over the winning trophy to Victor Martinez,
这个在几年前因为卖激素 a guy who was busted for selling steroids
而被捕的家伙 just a couple of years ago.
比赛过后几天 And a few days before this competition
他就被卷进另外一单激素丑闻里 he was implicated in another steroid scandal.
在阿诺州长赞助的健美比赛中 The bodybuilder who won a competition
获胜的那个健美者 sponsored by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger this past weekend
上周末被发现与激素试验有关联 has been linked to a steroid investigation.
州长发言人说史瓦辛格 A spokesman for the Governor says Schwarzenegger did not know
并不知道马丁尼兹跟激素有关联 of Martinez's links to steroids.
少来了 阿诺 你怎么会不知道 CHRIS: Come on, Arnold, what do you mean you didn't know?
好的 我们来比较一下 Okay, let's compare.
这是使用激素时的阿诺史瓦辛格 Here's Arnold Schwarzenegger when he was on steroids-
6尺2 235磅 6'2", 235 Ibs.
这是Victor Martinez And here's Victor Martinez,
比阿诺矮7英寸 重15磅 seven inches shorter and 15 Ibs heavier.
给他热烈的掌声 来吧 热烈的掌声 Give him a big hand, come on, a big hand.
这一年来我打了很多次电话 CHRIS: You know, I've been calling Arnold's office
到阿诺的办公室要求采访 For over a year to get an interview,
但是他的手下一直告诉我 but his people keep telling me
他对激素的态度很明确 that his position on steroids is very clear.
所以想知道答案 唯一的办法就是 So the only way to get an answer
自己去堵他 was to track him down myself
我知道他肯定会在那里出现 at a place I knew he would show up-
肌肉沙滩 Muscle Beach.
在州长改选的前几个星期 It was just a few weeks before the Governor's reelection
阿诺去到一个他知道能增加 And Arnold went to where he knew he could depend on support
他的选票的地方 to cement his voting base.
机会来了 我等了好几个小时 This was my big chance. I waited for hours.
他终于出现了 And finally there he was.
还有另外一个人 And there was this other guy,
中间那个最高的 他看到我了 the tall guy, the one in the middle. He saw me.
这就是现在进行的政治活动 This is how politics work these days.
露面最重要的是拍张照片 The important thing when making an appearance is the photo op.
高佬将会朝我点点头 The tall guy's gonna nod at me.
他会向阿诺指明我所在的方向 Then he's gonna point Arnold in my direction.
阿诺凭着他多年来 当超级巨星磨练出的直觉 Arnold, his instincts honed by years of being a huge star,
立刻对形势作出判断 instantly sizes up the situation,
决定用我来为他的改选造势 notices the various cameras
各种照相机也注意到了 and decides to use me to further his reelection bid.
看看他的手臂 看看他的手臂 Look at those arms. Look at those arms.
他没有谈到激素 CHRIS: And instead of talking about steroids
也没有谈到美国的欺骗文化 and the cheating culture of America,
他只是称赞了我的二头肌 he compliments me on my biceps
最后我们上了洛杉矶"时报"的头版 and we end up on the cover of the L.A. "Times. "
他在这里 噢 上帝啊 There he is. Oh my God.
我不在意 CHRIS: Not that I mind.
毕竟 这有点像梦想成真 After all, it was kind of like a dream come true.
你这家伙 Son of a bitch.
但是我还有很多 没有得到解答的问题 CHRIS: But I still have all these unanswered questions.
听我说 首先 SHELDON: Let me tell you this, first of all-
你不能让阿诺下台 对吧 You can't knock Arnold really, okay?
因为他能当上州长并不是因为激素 Because the steroids didn't get him into that office that he's in.
但是他确实曾经说过 But he basically comes out and he says,
"如果你努力工作 循规蹈矩 "if you work hard and you play by the rules
成功之门将会为你而开 this country is truly open to you.
你能取得你要的一切" 但是他是通过遵守规则 You can achieve anything. " but did he get to where he is
来取得这一切的吗 如果他没有使用药物 playing by the rules? Or would he have ever even been famous
他能出名吗 had he not taken those drugs?
这么说吧 Well, let's look at it this way-
我们来谈谈其他英雄 Let's talk about other heroes.
我们来谈谈约翰肯尼迪 他是海军英雄 Let's talk about John Kennedy. He was a hero in the Navy.
约翰肯尼迪曾担任美国总统 John Kennedy served as the President of the United States.
但他跟玛丽莲梦露 在白宫里在一起 But John Kennedy cheated on his wife right in the White House
谁也不知道他还有没有其它女人 他欺骗了他妻子 对吧 with Marilyn Monroe and who knows how many others, okay?
圣经里的英雄也是这样 It's no different than biblical characters.
摩西是个英雄 但他是个狗熊 Moses was a hero but Moses was a heel.
他没有去乐土 He didn't get into the Promised Land.
神跟他说的他也没有做到 He didn't do what God told him to do.
大卫是英雄 大卫王是英雄 David was a hero- King David was a hero,
但他也是个狗熊 每个女人他都追求 But David was a heel. He chased every woman
不管是穿裙子的 还是穿宽袍的罗马人 in a skirt, or in a toga,
还是其它民族的 or whatever they wore back then.
每个人都会犯错 Every man is fallible
甚至那些 and even the people
在圣经中作为榜样 who were the prime examples
教别人怎么度过一生的人 of how to run your life in the bible
也搞砸了 他们都搞砸了 screwed up. They all screwed up.
所以人们应该从 So people need to get off their
自以为是的幻影中走出来 self-righteous soapboxes
开始互相敬爱 and start loving each other.
我们只是想做好我们的工作 We just need to go out there and do our jobs,
就好像你们做好你的们工作一样 just as you professionals do your job.
你们都有撒谎 All of you guys lied.
所有的人 All of y'all
在编故事时或其它事上都曾经说过谎 in a story or whatever have lied.
你们的名字后面会被打上星号吗 Should you have an asterisk behind your name?
你们都撒过谎 All of you have lied.
你们都曾说错过话 All of you have said something wrong.
你们都不是干净的 所有的人 All of you have dirt, all of you.
扫干净自己的门前雪后 When your closet's clean
再来管别人的瓦上霜 then come clean somebody else's.
但是先清扫干净自己的 But clean yours first.
嗨 你好吗 CHRIS: Hi. How are you?
我姓Bell BELL The last name is Bell, B- E-L-L.
我发誓竭力服务大众 SCHWARZENEGGER: I took the oath to serve you.
我对今天在这里的每一个人 和所有的加利福尼亚人起誓 I say to everyone here today and to all Californians,
我永远不会忘记我的誓言 I will not forget my oath
我永远不会忘记你们 And I will not forget you.
我投阿诺的几个月后 CHRIS: A few months after I voted for Arnold
他的手下让黄金健身中心 his people told Gold's Gym
把他的海报全部换掉 to remove all of his images.
这意味着什么 What is the meaning of this?
这对黄金健身中心 来说是黑暗的一天 It's a dark day in Gold's Gym.
他们在把阿诺的海报换下来 They're taking down Arnold's poster.
你很赞赏阿诺吗 他是你心目中的英雄 Do you have a lot of respect for Arnold? Is he one of your heroes?
嗯 以前是 但他把海报换下来后就不是了 Well, he was until he took his shit down.
伙计 他是个叛徒 You know, that guy's a traitor, man.
健身中心变得不一样了 CHRIS: The gym feels different now.
旧阿诺走了 The old Arnold's gone
但是这一次 and somehow this time
我觉得他不会再回来了 I don't think he'll be back.
能离开波启普夕来到 这里你觉得很兴奋吧 So you're excited to be out here instead of in Poughkeepsie?
是的 兄弟 我有一份薪水 Hell yeah, man. I got a job making
是以前三倍的工作 而房租却跟以前差不多 three times as much money and my rent's just about the same
我住在海滩旁边 我买了部敞篷车 and I'm right by the beach and I got a convertible.
亲爱的 把它放在镜子旁边 Right here next to the mirror, honey.
用点力 MIKE: Put a little muscle in it.
拿着 举高点 - CHRIS: Here you go. - Higher.
你计划在这里做点什么 以前没在波启普夕做的 So what do you plan on doing here that you weren't doing in Poughkeepsie?
享受人生而不是讨厌人生 Jeez, like having fun with life instead of hating life.
这对你有帮助吗 Think it'll help you with your problems and stuff?
绝对有 我已经觉得好点了 Absolutely. I feel better already.
现在疯狗住在加利福尼亚 CHRIS: Now that Mad Dog's in California,
一切好像都很顺利 Things seem to be going pretty good for him.
他在当地的一所摔跤学校当教练 He got a job working as a trainer at a local wrestling school.
抓到了如果想把它拉过来 Got you! Now if I want to take it here-
头抬起来 头抬起来 Keep your face up, keep your face up.
疯狗是个很好的老师 CHRIS: He'd actually make a great teacher,
但这对他来说并不够 but that's not good enough for Mad Dog.
他仍然想成为超级明星 He still wants to be a superstar.
星期天晚 有线电视 Madison广场花园 MIKE: So this Sunday night, pay per view, Madison Square Garden!
地狱的丧钟将为你敲响 Hell's Henrys will toll for you.
不是… 可是我病了 哥们 Just not- I'm sick, though, dude.
疯狗把他的广告片拿去给WWE CHRIS: Mad Dog sent his promo to the W.W.E.,
但他们再次拒绝了他 but they rejected him again.
他们说他太老了 They said he's too old
不是他们现在要找的人 and not what they're looking for right now.
我想相信这个世界是美好的 MIKE: You know, I want to believe that the world is good,
但它不是 我也想努力争取 but it's not. And I want to try hard,
但不能赢还争取来干什么 but why try when you can't win?
谁不能训练呢 Those who can't do, train.
我不明白为什么我做不到 It's just I never understood why I didn't,
你明白吗 you know?
当一个普通人有什么不好 What's the problem with just being a normal guy?
当一个普通人有什么不好 What's wrong with just being normal?
没什么不好 There's nothing wrong with it.
嗯 其实 有不好的地方 Well, actually, there is something wrong with it.
不好的地方是 the thing that's wrong with it is
我生下来就是为了达到最高境界 that I was born to attain greatness and I'm the only one
而我却一直停滞不前 我想达到最高境界 我必须达到 that's holding myself back. And I need to attain greatness. I need to do it.
你住在海滩边 你有一个美丽的妻子 You live down by the beach, you have a beautiful wife,
没有比这更好的了 and nothing's ever good enough.
我能想像她的感受 I can only imagine how she feels.
你有没有想过 And do you ever think,
"为什么我要牵连到其他人呢" "why am I dragging somebody else in this?"
我知道她有经常都是哭着入睡 I know that a lot of times she's crying herself to sleep.
我知道有时她没有像 And I know that sometimes she doesn't glow
我们初次见面时那么容光焕发 the way that she did when I first met her.
我知道这是我的错 And I know it's my fault.
这真让我难受 And it really tears me up.
是啊 我的意思是 Yeah. Well, I mean,
我每天都在担心 I worry every day that-
担心你会失去你的工作 What I worry about is you're gonna lose your job,
失去你的妻子 然后迷失你自己 You're gonna lose your wife and then you're gonna lose yourself.
如果我失去工作失去妻子 还剩下什么呢 If I lose my job and my wife, what else do I have?
我只是觉得 I just feel
我能为这个世界做更多的事 that I have more to offer this world.
但却不知道这些事是什么 And I don't know exactly what it is
或者要怎么去做 or how I'm gonna go about doing it.
我知道在这里有些东西 I know there's something in here
是注定要被世界上其他人知道的 That's meant for the rest of the world to know.
你们小时候 When you were kids
都会崇拜 you all admired
玻璃弹子冠军 跑得最快的人 the champion marble shooter, the fastest runner,
职业棒球选手 最厉害的拳击手 big league ballplayers, the toughest boxers.
美国人民爱戴胜利者 Americans love a winner
而且决不会原谅失败者 and will not tolerate a loser.
臭臭现在要跟世界上 CHRIS: Smelly is now competing
最顶尖的选手比赛 against the best guys in the world
他希望能够实现儿时的梦想 and he hopes to achieve his childhood dream
卧推700磅（约318公斤） of bench-pressing 700 Ibs.
但他和他的妻子达成协议 But he and his wife agreed
这将是他最后一次使用激素了 that this would be his last meet on steroids.
我以为她并不是很在乎 I knew that she didn't really care for it,
我不知道这会让她这么痛苦 but i didn't know it hurt her that much.
我不知道她会这么担心 And I didn't know she worried that much about it.
这并不是件容易的事 It's definitely something that's not gonna be easy to do.
我并不是很想这么做 I don't necessarily want to do it, but, you know,
但我如果继续使用 忽略她的感受 if I just stay on it and ignore her,
那就太自私了 that's just being selfish.
他想要生多一个孩子 所以他决定这是他 He's trying to have another kid, so he decided
最后一次使用 that this is gonna be his last meet
以前用的东西了 that he ever takes anything.
你觉得这会不会影响他的举重 How do you think that'll affect his lifting?
会有点影响 It'll affect it somewhat,
一旦他停止使用 并且有另外一个孩子 but once he tapers off and has the child
他又能使用它们了 he can go right back on them.
但是他不想再用 他的妻子不想他 But he doesn't want to go back on them. His wife doesn't want him
以后再沾上这些东西 to be on it at all ever again.
这等于杀了臭臭 The death of Smelly.
真的吗 You think so?
臭臭还会再用的 Smelly will go back on.
你还会再用它吗 So you'll never take it again?
我还会再用它吗 是的 - I'll never take 'em again? - Yeah.
不 我可能还会再用它们 No, I probably will take 'em again
因为这是 怎样再用 - because this is something- - How?
嗯 我会想出方法的 Well, I'll figure out a way.
我的意思是 我会跟安迪谈谈这件事的 I mean, that's something I'll have to talk out with Andee,
但这是一件 我已经 but this is something I've been-
我12岁就开始参加力量举Powerlifting了 力量举（Powerlifting）的比赛项目是硬拉（Deadlift）、深蹲（Squat）、卧推（Chest Pres）3个项目；举重（Weightlifting）的项目是抓举（Snatch）与挺举（Clean Jerk）两个项目。二者是有区别的 I've been involved in power lifting since I was 12 years old.
这是我喜欢做的事 This is part of what I like to do.
我不会让自己 And I'm not gonna go
从举800磅退步到700磅的 from squatting 800 Ibs to squatting 700 Ibs.
我当然还会再用它们 I'm gonna want to get back on 'em for sure.
这真可悲 因为 Which is kind of sad 'cause-
嗯 很多人要通过说谎来获得成功 Well, you know, a lot of people have to lie to get ahead.
这是事情的一种解决方法 That's just kind of the way things work.
但是父母养大我们 不是要让我们当骗子的 Well, we weren't brought up as cheaters.
我的意思是 我们也不是被 Well, I mean, people aren't brought up
养来打劫银行的 没有人教你去打劫银行 to rob a bank either. You're not really trained to rob a bank
也没有人训练 or you're not really trained to do drugs
或教你使用药品 诸如此类 or taught to do drugs or anything like that,
但是 有些人最终却变成这样 but just, you know, it's kind of the way you end up.
加油 Yeah! Come on!
上吧马克 加油马克 - MAN: Let's go, mark! - MAN #2: Go mark!
上场了马克 加油 MAN: Let's go, Mark. Come on!
加油 马克加油 - Come on! - Go Mark!
马克 加油 开始吧马克 Go Mark! Let's go, Mark!
加油 你行的 Come on, you got this.
加油 你行的 举起来 加油 Come on, you got it! Let's go, come on!
好耶好耶 - Yeah! Yeah! - Yes! Yes!
我们都知道 CHRIS: My baby brother is on steroids
我的弟弟使用了激素 and we all know it.
但是看看我们 我爸爸像中了奖一样高兴 But look at us. My dad looks like he won the lottery.
我妈妈的祷告实现了 And my mom's prayers have been answered.
我以前一直相信 骗子是不会成功的 I was raised to believe that cheaters never prosper,
但是在美国骗子们好像都成功了 but in America it seems like cheaters always prosper.
使用兴奋剂 比如激素 The use of performance-enhancing drugs like steroids
是非常危险的 并且这会让人们错误地认为 is dangerous and it sends the wrong message
成功可以通过走捷径 that there are shortcuts to accomplishment
而且外在表现要 比内在品质重要得多 And that performance is more important than character.
在美国 做应该做的事 CHRIS: There is a clash in America
和成为强者之间有冲突 Between doing the right thing and being the best.
美国人一直在扮演胜利者的角色 Americans play to win all the time
因为他们 because the very thought of losing
讨厌失败 is hateful to Americans.
球出界了 COMMENTATOR: It is out of here!
756!
邦茨遥遥领先 Bonds stands alone!
在第二名 CHRIS: In a culture where second place
是最大的失败者 这样的文化里 Is the first loser,
真正的英雄是那些 不惜任何代价争取胜利的人 the real heroes are the ones who win at all costs.
我拥有的一切 我的职业 Everything I have- my career,
我的成功 我的家庭 my success, my family-
都得感谢美国 I owe to America.
这就是美国 CHRIS: This is America.
我们是世界上最强大的国家 We're the greatest country in the world.
你可以说我们是 依赖兴奋剂的民族 You could call us a nation on steroids.
但是有什么慢性副作用吗 But what are those long-term side effects?
对于我们三兄弟来说 For me and my brothers
激素不是关键问题 steroids are not the problem.
它们只是成为 They're just another side effect
一个美国人的副作用罢了 of being American.
oh, superman, where are you now?
when everything's gone wrong somehow
the men of steel, these men of power
are losing control by the hour
and this is the time
?this is the place ?/i>
?so we look to the future ?/i>
?but there's not much left to go around ?/i>
?tell me why this is a land of confusion ?/i>
?ha ha ha ha ?/i>
?this is the world we live in ?/i>
?and these are the hands we're given ?/i>
?use them and let's start trying ?/i>
?to make it ?/i>
?a place worth living ?/i>
?yeah ?/i>
?I remember long ago ?/i>
?where the sun was shining ?/i>
?and all the stars ?/i>
?were bright ?/i>
?all through the night ?/i>
?in the wake of this madness ?/i>
?as I held you tight ?/i>
?so long ago ?/i>
?there's too many men ?/i>
?too many people ?/i>
?making too many problems ?/i>
?and there's not much left ?/i>
?to go around ?/i>
?can't you see this is ?/i>
?a land of confusion? ?/i>
?ha ha ha ha ?/i>
?now this is ?/i>
?the world we live in ?/i>
?and these are ?/i>
?the hands we're given ?/i>
?stand up ?/i>
?and let's start showing ?/i>
?just where our lives are going to ?/i>
?ha ha ha ha. ?/i>